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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
September 04 2013 16:21 GMT
#75841
On September 05 2013 01:19 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Bah twitch is terrible lately.

I've been listening to Sheever, so I know about that.
It's also why I watch through the client
EZ4ENCE
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 04 2013 16:23 GMT
#75842
On September 05 2013 01:15 WindWolf wrote:
What role in Centaur usually run in in pro-doto

He should be a bit like tiny (ganker version), fast blink into terrorizing the map, but the few I've seen him played goes hood or vangard
About the newly ported heroes, abaddon is also not yet played to his potential, I remember in dota 1 he was a lane terror, shielding the creeps focused by a tower, or shielding the neutral creep during a enemy pull, but for now he's played as a pure babysitter.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
September 04 2013 16:24 GMT
#75843
On September 05 2013 01:23 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 01:15 WindWolf wrote:
What role in Centaur usually run in in pro-doto

He should be a bit like tiny (ganker version), fast blink into terrorizing the map, but the few I've seen him played goes hood or vangard
About the newly ported heroes, abaddon is also not yet played to his potential, I remember in dota 1 he was a lane terror, shielding the creeps focused by a tower, or shielding the neutral creep during a enemy pull, but for now he's played as a pure babysitter.

To me he resembles Slardar with slightly different utility (a little more emphasis on the ganking, better pusher, etc etc).
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 16:26:21
September 04 2013 16:24 GMT
#75844
^ or slardar yeah. But as you said he can farm very well.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 04 2013 16:25 GMT
#75845
On September 05 2013 01:19 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 01:16 WindWolf wrote:
On September 05 2013 01:15 Sn0_Man wrote:
On September 05 2013 01:15 WindWolf wrote:
What role in Centaur usually run in in pro-doto

The "not picked" role.

RoxKis just picked him in SL


As a carry in an aggressive tri with Rubick and LoA. Spacecow is solo safelane and Razor is mid.2

He has a really mean combo with Abbadon too for an aggressive tri lane. Shield + that stomp is like 300 damage at level 1. But it will go real bad if you don't get kills.
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Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
September 04 2013 16:28 GMT
#75846
On September 05 2013 01:23 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 01:15 WindWolf wrote:
What role in Centaur usually run in in pro-doto

He should be a bit like tiny (ganker version), fast blink into terrorizing the map, but the few I've seen him played goes hood or vangard
About the newly ported heroes, abaddon is also not yet played to his potential, I remember in dota 1 he was a lane terror, shielding the creeps focused by a tower, or shielding the neutral creep during a enemy pull, but for now he's played as a pure babysitter.

Slardar with blink is SOOO good - it's always a shame when someone chooses to skip it, I think ...
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
September 04 2013 16:34 GMT
#75847
On September 05 2013 01:28 Testuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 01:23 MrCon wrote:
On September 05 2013 01:15 WindWolf wrote:
What role in Centaur usually run in in pro-doto

He should be a bit like tiny (ganker version), fast blink into terrorizing the map, but the few I've seen him played goes hood or vangard
About the newly ported heroes, abaddon is also not yet played to his potential, I remember in dota 1 he was a lane terror, shielding the creeps focused by a tower, or shielding the neutral creep during a enemy pull, but for now he's played as a pure babysitter.

Slardar with blink is SOOO good - it's always a shame when someone chooses to skip it, I think ...

Armlet as fast as possbile so you can wodoto as hard as you can.

Granted, I dont take slardar too seriously when I play as him.
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Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
September 04 2013 16:36 GMT
#75848
Slardar stomp AoE is also significantly better, and the ability to follow up with ulti and then leave is pretty important. Cent has got an ulti and a spell that deal massive damage to the enemy and yourself. Going Pipe first on cent is the better build on him imho, differently from slard.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 04 2013 16:37 GMT
#75849
Slardar crush is instant so yeah there is merit for armlet or blink. Centaur on the other hand can't stun without blink with his one second cast time (it's not one second but when you stun someone near you who is running away you'll miss most of the time)
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 04 2013 16:38 GMT
#75850
On September 05 2013 01:37 MrCon wrote:
Slardar crush is instant so yeah there is merit for armlet or blink. Centaur on the other hand can't stun without blink with his one second cast time (it's not one second but when you stun someone near you who is running away you'll miss most of the time)

While slardar's cast point of .35 is definitely better than Centaurs (.5), its very far from instant.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 04 2013 16:40 GMT
#75851
Well I didn't know the numbers but the sure thing is that you can't really escape a slardar crush while a centaur stun is very difficult to land properly on a moving target.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 04 2013 16:42 GMT
#75852
Well there is also the issue of radius (315 vs 350) on their spells yes, but centaur can just ult + run over the enemy to slow them and then hit his stun. Not really reliable for hitting more than 1 enemy but not really reliant on blink either.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
September 04 2013 16:44 GMT
#75853
On September 05 2013 01:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well there is also the issue of radius (315 vs 350) on their spells yes, but centaur can just ult + run over the enemy to slow them and then hit his stun. Not really reliable for hitting more than 1 enemy but not really reliant on blink either.

His ult's cooldown is ever so slightly longer than the cooldown of blink, you know...
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 16:45:21
September 04 2013 16:44 GMT
#75854
Tiny is a better comparison for Centaur than Slardar.

The main point of difference being that Tiny/Centaur have far higher burst damage, and therefore stronger gank/solo-killing ability because of that, while Slardar only has one nuke and trades burst damage for better sustained teamfighting (Crush CD is lower than War Stomp but does less damage, plus -armor being better with sustained autoattack damage).
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SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
September 04 2013 16:46 GMT
#75855
Reading up on the TPL drama, really interesting to see that Ange managed to stay behind the brand TPL. I followed TPL a lot but I didn't know that MYM quality work is at hand. Although their threads were shitty.

Also this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Premier League

Contact
* l.blum@thepremierleague.eu


HMMM THAT NAME SOUNDS FAMILIAR.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
September 04 2013 16:48 GMT
#75856
Where can I start readin about TPL-drama? What page
EZ4ENCE
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 04 2013 16:48 GMT
#75857
On September 05 2013 01:44 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 01:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well there is also the issue of radius (315 vs 350) on their spells yes, but centaur can just ult + run over the enemy to slow them and then hit his stun. Not really reliable for hitting more than 1 enemy but not really reliant on blink either.

His ult's cooldown is ever so slightly longer than the cooldown of blink, you know...

I go blink first on centaur, don't get me wrong. I just don't think it is necessary on centaur but somehow not necessary on slardar. You get it in the same situations. And when you can't farm it, both heroes can make do without.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
September 04 2013 16:51 GMT
#75858
On September 05 2013 01:48 WindWolf wrote:
Where can I start readin about TPL-drama? What page


http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/features/3439-ange-in-hot-soup-again-over-workshop-items-controversy
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
September 04 2013 16:52 GMT
#75859
On September 05 2013 01:46 SilverStar wrote:
Reading up on the TPL drama, really interesting to see that Ange managed to stay behind the brand TPL. I followed TPL a lot but I didn't know that MYM quality work is at hand. Although their threads were shitty.

Also this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Premier League

Show nested quote +
Contact
* l.blum@thepremierleague.eu


HMMM THAT NAME SOUNDS FAMILIAR.
My TPL threads were sick though.

Anyway. I think most people who knew who Ange was knew he made TPL. It's not like it was a secret.
Once you Goblak...
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
September 04 2013 16:54 GMT
#75860
On September 05 2013 01:44 TheYango wrote:
Tiny is a better comparison for Centaur than Slardar.

The main point of difference being that Tiny/Centaur have far higher burst damage, and therefore stronger gank/solo-killing ability because of that, while Slardar only has one nuke and trades burst damage for better sustained teamfighting (Crush CD is lower than War Stomp but does less damage, plus -armor being better with sustained autoattack damage).

Eh, I think the issue with comparing Tiny is that modern Tiny is almost always played as a hardcarry, and while Centuar scales okay he never really wants to farm more than a semi-carry slot after a few items.

Plus, I think Centuar has more initiation / teamfight contribution than a Tiny does.
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