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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
On August 30 2013 15:50 sandyph wrote: thats when you buy BKB and laugh at the spinning wheely-thingy ok maybe 6.77 drow after global aura removed level broken as for SD, yesterday it pair me with this sylla fun stuff allright .... damn ! Lion with his ult and dagon 5 pretty scary ! | ||
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sandyph
Indonesia1640 Posts
On August 30 2013 15:34 TheEmulator wrote: Well, make sure you're getting necromastery first. SF is basically useless until he can gain a few souls. In terms of items, I personally start with tango, salve, 2x branch, 2x slipper, although this isn't the best item start on him. yeah, 2 branch + 2 slipper + regen into 2 wraith band -> treads -> lothar -> crys/buriza is the easiest build to own pub in low-mid level or if you can go bottle+blink+bkb like Dendi as for skill just go necro first then raze then alternate both depend on whether you reach the max soul you can have until 8, then depend on the game either get aura or ulti at 9 then max everything with stats post 16. | ||
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sandyph
Indonesia1640 Posts
On August 30 2013 15:53 739 wrote: damn ! Lion with his ult and dagon 5 pretty scary ! I think he went dagon because skywarth keep silencing him ..... live on low level is hard | ||
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wairai
Malaysia1000 Posts
ie: Dazzly zero kills ~___~ | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 30 2013 15:56 sandyph wrote: yeah, 2 branch + 2 slipper + regen into 2 wraith band -> treads -> lothar -> crys/buriza is the easiest build to own pub in low-mid level or if you can go bottle+blink+bkb like Dendi as for skill just go necro first then raze then alternate both depend on whether you reach the max soul you can have until 8, then depend on the game either get aura or ulti at 9 then max everything with stats post 16. 2 slipper 2 branch is greedy as fuck against anyone who knows what they're doing because like half the reasonable mid heroes in the game can solo kill him at level 3-4 if he comes to lane with only +2 Strength. Conversely, if you aren't experienced at the hero, it's really easy for you to walk into getting solo killed even if the enemy isn't that good if you go a start that greedy. Honestly 4 Branch + regen + save 200 gold for earlier Bottle is probably the most "noob-proof" start. | ||
TheEmulator
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 30 2013 16:07 TheEmulator wrote: I tend to not pick sf when they have a mid that can easily kill him, hence why I go for greedier builds. I tend not to pick in general. #addictedtorandom In all seriousness though, the number of mid heroes that it's actually safe to go 2 Slipper + 2 Branch against is like 5. Slightly more when your opposing mids don't actually know what they can kill, but if there's a skill disparity like that between you and the opposing mid, I don't think double Slipper is the best start either because there's no point in getting 2 Wraith Bands usually in that case. | ||
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TheEmulator
28103 Posts
On August 30 2013 16:09 cecek wrote: I saw a cm buy a tp for our Gyro when he died in my solo queue game yesterday. You can almost always get a tp if you ask for it, at least in my experiences. | ||
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sandyph
Indonesia1640 Posts
On August 30 2013 16:04 TheYango wrote: 2 slipper 2 branch is greedy as fuck against anyone who knows what they're doing because like half the reasonable mid heroes in the game can solo kill him at level 3-4 if he comes to lane with only +2 Strength. Conversely, if you aren't experienced at the hero, it's really easy for you to walk into getting solo killed even if the enemy isn't that good if you go a start that greedy. Honestly 4 Branch + regen + save 200 gold for earlier Bottle is probably the most "noob-proof" start. by level 4 you should be able to ferry your 2 wraith band assuming 6(?) creep wave should be enough to get you 670 gold needed to finish them. Since the points of having 2 slippers is so that you dont miss too many last hit on the early level. but yeah, you die really easy if any support decide to gank you but as long as you play safe and not against a ridicolous mid like skywarth/qop/puck you should be ok imho | ||
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TheEmulator
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
If a level 3 Tinker gets a laser and 1-2 autos on you when you are level 2 (and he will hit 3 before you because of greater deny count unless he's way worse than you), you are well within solo-kill range on his next Laser even with Tango regen. You either have to blow a salve being down only 200-250 HP from max, or lose out on any XP from the creep wave until your Tango healing brings you high enough. | ||
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sandyph
Indonesia1640 Posts
 On August 30 2013 16:19 TheYango wrote: There are plenty of "not ridiculous" mids that easily solo kill you through a +2 Strength start at like level 3. Lion, Tinker, Viper, etc. very "normal" mid heroes that just need to manage your HP a bit to the point where you either have to start using inefficient regen (e.g. forcing a Salve when you're only like 200-250 HP off max HP or risk being in solo kill range). yeah, as I mentioned, on my level this build works great until it doesnt work at all which mean I need to stop using SF until my next losing streak bring down my MMR back to where this build suddenly works again | ||
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TheEmulator
28103 Posts
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
Is it worth a lot? He even mentioned it is the item that has the most value in Dota2. Trolling? or Real? | ||
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
I got it when I opened my first or second chest. | ||
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739
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
On August 30 2013 16:43 WindWolf wrote: While we're talking about items, is an Unusual Mountain Yak worth much? I got it when I opened my first or second chest. You gotta tell us, what kind of effect it has? | ||
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Souone
Brazil470 Posts
On August 30 2013 16:25 TheEmulator wrote: So apparently blitz might play for a Korean team. This might be cool, I like Blitz. I think icex3 kinda leaked he was going to FXO on stream ... but it's icex3, so can't be sure if not trolling. | ||
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sandyph
Indonesia1640 Posts
On August 30 2013 16:45 Souone wrote: I think icex3 kinda leaked he was going to FXO on stream ... but it's icex3, so can't be sure if not trolling. he also said that he was picking up Dendi at the airport sometimes last week, so ..... | ||
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