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cupoftealove
Profile Joined August 2012
325 Posts
August 28 2013 10:31 GMT
#74541
He said he doesn't know which team of those two, but he was asked to come to Korea. I'm guessing he has offers from both teams and is deciding. Starts around 2:10:00 in this vod and talks about it every now and then during the game.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
August 28 2013 10:54 GMT
#74542
Question: when you're support, is there any reason to stack creeps before pulling if there's nothing that will prevent you from doing a pull-through? I see plenty of people who do that, but I'm guessing it's because they aren't sure of the pull-through timing (especially on dire side).
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 28 2013 10:56 GMT
#74543
Single rule

1. You pull single stack of creeps when You want to push the lane
2. You pull the double stack of creeps when You dont want to push the lane
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 28 2013 10:59 GMT
#74544
Well double pulling, especially on radiant, puts you in a more risky situation, but that excepted I guess the answer is no.
StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
August 28 2013 10:59 GMT
#74545
On August 28 2013 19:54 Sbrubbles wrote:
Question: when you're support, is there any reason to stack creeps before pulling if there's nothing that will prevent you from doing a pull-through? I see plenty of people who do that, but I'm guessing it's because they aren't sure of the pull-through timing (especially on dire side).


If you can pull off a double pull its better for sure because you can get the gold and xp from the pull camp every minute, but doing a double pull alone is pretty hard, so its safer to do a stack pull. (this is also harder for the offlaner to mess with).

Personally I often mess up double pulls, especially on dire, thats why I usually stack and pull.
StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
August 28 2013 11:01 GMT
#74546
On August 28 2013 19:56 739 wrote:
Single rule

1. You pull single stack of creeps when You want to push the lane
2. You pull the double stack of creeps when You dont want to push the lane

Exception: you can deny a whole creep wave using a single alpha wolf camp


Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
August 28 2013 11:02 GMT
#74547
sorry if i missed it.

but why is fnatic going to PI. is there a tournmanet happening there or what.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 11:11:41
August 28 2013 11:10 GMT
#74548
On August 28 2013 19:54 Sbrubbles wrote:
Question: when you're support, is there any reason to stack creeps before pulling if there's nothing that will prevent you from doing a pull-through? I see plenty of people who do that, but I'm guessing it's because they aren't sure of the pull-through timing (especially on dire side).


On dire side it is really easy for the offlaner to mess up the pull-through timing if it's good. Sometimes it's better to just be safe than to risk pushing on a non-cannon creep wave if you need the cannon to get tower(ie: not a jungler).

With that being said the people you are seeing double stack most likely don't take any of this into account and just don't know how to do pull through pulling. It varies a lot according to what camp you get in the first pull so inexperienced people tend to fail at it. Stacking first removes this.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 28 2013 11:12 GMT
#74549
[image loading]

[image loading]

anyone take a shot at translating these for me? i would try google-translate but it's a swf TT
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Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
August 28 2013 11:15 GMT
#74550
On August 28 2013 20:02 Emnjay808 wrote:
sorry if i missed it.

but why is fnatic going to PI. is there a tournmanet happening there or what.


it just looks like a promotional thing with MSI who sponsor both Mineski and Fnatic I think
cupoftealove
Profile Joined August 2012
325 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 11:44:04
August 28 2013 11:36 GMT
#74551
On August 28 2013 20:12 opterown wrote:
...
anyone take a shot at translating these for me? i would try google-translate but it's a swf TT


ACE league schedule? I remember in the ACE interview a while back the guy saying there would be one ACE league this year in September.

Edit: Found the interview.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 28 2013 11:44 GMT
#74552
yeah i know it's the ace league schedule, just wondering what each of the things in the columns meant (like time, etc i guess?)
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Eetee
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore373 Posts
August 28 2013 11:50 GMT
#74553
i am bad at editing.

1st week Sept 5th(Thurs) VG vs TF Battlereport Stats Analysis VOD Bet
1st week Sept 6th(Fri) DK vs RS Battlereport Stats Analysis VOD Bet
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Eetee
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore373 Posts
August 28 2013 11:52 GMT
#74554
HMM i think A1/A2 are qualifier teams,

Also, since the chinese scene is still shuffling... will they be ready by next week?
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 11:55:11
August 28 2013 11:52 GMT
#74555
On August 28 2013 19:54 Sbrubbles wrote:
Question: when you're support, is there any reason to stack creeps before pulling if there's nothing that will prevent you from doing a pull-through? I see plenty of people who do that, but I'm guessing it's because they aren't sure of the pull-through timing (especially on dire side).

No.

Chains are always more efficient, assuming you can pull them off. It only depends on whether you can get them done and whether the enemy offlaner can disrupt them easily. A fucked up chainpull screws much more with your lane than him trying to mess up a stacked pull camp.

e: Also whatever you do -never- stack the Radiant chain camp unless you plan to just stack -> pull your regular pullcamp for the next 10 minutes. I see this a lot even on streams by ixmike and others. It basically makes it so that you can easily need 3+ chains to ever get done with that camp which makes it highly inefficient.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
August 28 2013 11:54 GMT
#74556
Oh man thats a brutal opening match for VG
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 11:58:08
August 28 2013 11:54 GMT
#74557
Every time I load up this game to solo queue I get matched with just the most pants on head retarded people and it's painful especially because I prefer playing support, every game isn't won or lost due to fun fights its always one or more members of either team just doing the most retarded thing you could imagine.

So any solution? Just keep dealing with it? Play a single player game? Don't ever solo queue in normal bracket?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 28 2013 12:02 GMT
#74558
On August 28 2013 20:50 Eetee wrote:
i am bad at editing.

1st week Sept 5th(Thurs) VG vs TF Battlereport Stats Analysis VOD Bet
1st week Sept 6th(Fri) DK vs RS Battlereport Stats Analysis VOD Bet
1st week Sept 7th(Sat) A1 vs Rstar Battlereport Stats Analysis VOD Bet
1st week Sept 8th(Sun) IG vs LGD Battlereport Stats Analysis VOD Bet
FL vs A2 Battlereport Stats Analysis VOD Bet

thanks yo~

interesting to see they have a betting option
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Shadowpostin
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany798 Posts
August 28 2013 12:02 GMT
#74559
On August 28 2013 20:01 StoRm_res wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 19:56 739 wrote:
Single rule

1. You pull single stack of creeps when You want to push the lane
2. You pull the double stack of creeps when You dont want to push the lane

Exception: you can deny a whole creep wave using a single alpha wolf camp



that actually depends if the creep wave starts off by hitting the big wolf or the smaller ones
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 28 2013 12:20 GMT
#74560
On August 28 2013 20:54 Esoterikk wrote:
Every time I load up this game to solo queue I get matched with just the most pants on head retarded people and it's painful especially because I prefer playing support, every game isn't won or lost due to fun fights its always one or more members of either team just doing the most retarded thing you could imagine.

So any solution? Just keep dealing with it? Play a single player game? Don't ever solo queue in normal bracket?


you really have to suck it up. That's really it man, I know what you mean. The game is entirely decided by who is less retarded lolol
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