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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
August 28 2013 07:32 GMT
#74521
On August 28 2013 15:57 Mithhaike wrote:
Max Arcane bolt, then max seal with 1 point of concussive in between and max it last. Ult 6 11 16.

Has this week's patch notes been released yet? It's Wednesday.


Thanks. I maxed both nukes first, didn't really notice if it was good or not... But I'll try silence first this time.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 28 2013 08:01 GMT
#74522
Maxing the silence ends up giving you more damage because both the duration and the damage amp % go up.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
August 28 2013 08:05 GMT
#74523
Yeah, basically the levels in silence make your ult and Q hurt, a LOT.
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sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
August 28 2013 08:23 GMT
#74524
On August 28 2013 07:07 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 07:04 Torte de Lini wrote:
On August 28 2013 07:01 Sn0_Man wrote:
On August 28 2013 06:56 Torte de Lini wrote:
Would you guys consider this a quality of DotA and even now in Dota 2 or something to omit?

The way unintended consequences of various map features are used in gameplay is a HUGE feature of dota. As somebody else said, it is just like broodwar. "Magic Boxes" and "Drone Drills" and other such interesting mechanics were obviously not "intentional" but rather side-effects of other things that turn out to be fascinating and abuseable game mechanics that add a LOT to the gameplay.

E: and stop lurkers, and walling techniques, etc. The list in BW is long and thats a huge part of why it was so cool: depth to explore. Dota has just as many quirks that make it amazing.


I've written it as a beautiful foundation that lead the new dimensions and techniques to innovate gameplay and thus, strategy.
I also used the Chen/Pudge Dendi clip to show that Dota 2 maintained this consistency of working to streamline bugs that was both balanced and consistent.

Something like that

That's probably an awkward clip to choose for that specificly since part of those plays consists of an unintentional bug and, according to Chinese casters, Na'Vi wasn't allowed to use it in the finals because of that.

(The hook projectile doesn't match the visuals)


...a better example would be KotLs illuminate range that was bugged to be too long in Dota 2. It however suddenly made people pick the hero and Icefrog later changed it officially to the "bugged" range in 6.75.


or Dendi-Puppey Puck-Chen bottle refill trick
there's no way it was an intended use of Illusory Orb
Put quote here for readability
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 28 2013 08:44 GMT
#74525
On August 28 2013 17:23 sandyph wrote:
or Dendi-Puppey Puck-Chen bottle refill trick
there's no way it was an intended use of Illusory Orb

That's pretty much always been possible in DotA 1.
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Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
August 28 2013 08:45 GMT
#74526
On August 28 2013 16:18 igotmyown wrote:
i can't replicate this pudge hook at all. At first I thought maybe allies have a smaller hitbox for hooks, but no.

I'm thinking the beastmaster was never in danger, so by the time his hitbox crosses the hook path, the hook is passed him. But then razor's hitbox still looks outside the hook ... unless he walked back into it by being blocked by some trees.

Edit: though if you pick that exact spot, for some reason the hook seems to hit a little wider.

Dunno, I've tested this before and it seems pudge hook isn't "big" enough graphically. It hits units outside it's graphic for some reason. They should really fix that it makes for some weird hooks.

Basically I thought selection circle = hitbox, but that isn't true?
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
August 28 2013 08:46 GMT
#74527
On August 28 2013 17:44 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 17:23 sandyph wrote:
or Dendi-Puppey Puck-Chen bottle refill trick
there's no way it was an intended use of Illusory Orb

That's pretty much always been possible in DotA 1.


but still can be considered a 'bug'/unintended usage just like creep stacking and pudge hook though
Put quote here for readability
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 28 2013 09:04 GMT
#74528
It's by no means a bug though kind of pointless to talk about "unintended" things that don't relate to bugs?
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 09:22:37
August 28 2013 09:22 GMT
#74529
On August 28 2013 18:04 Numy wrote:
It's by no means a bug though kind of pointless to talk about "unintended" things that don't relate to bugs?


It was on the context of stuff in Dota that start as unintended usage that eventually become a norm for the article that he was writing :-/
Put quote here for readability
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
August 28 2013 09:24 GMT
#74530
is there a better feeling in dota than coming back from mega creeps? i actually jumped out of my chair like i was bulba or something.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 28 2013 09:26 GMT
#74531
On August 28 2013 18:22 sandyph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2013 18:04 Numy wrote:
It's by no means a bug though kind of pointless to talk about "unintended" things that don't relate to bugs?


It was on the context of stuff in Dota that start as unintended usage that eventually become a norm for the article that he was writing :-/


I thought it was in the context of a bug that eventually became standard.Stuff like Lone druid armlet is a perfect example but it eventually got changed.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 28 2013 09:45 GMT
#74532
Blitz moving to Korea and joining a korean team =D
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
August 28 2013 09:48 GMT
#74533
That sounds crazy. But actually really cool when I think about it.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 28 2013 09:58 GMT
#74534
He confirmed it in the reddit thread so it seems real
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
August 28 2013 10:13 GMT
#74535
as a player or commentator ?
Put quote here for readability
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 28 2013 10:15 GMT
#74536
On August 28 2013 19:13 sandyph wrote:
as a player or commentator ?

As a player I think.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
August 28 2013 10:17 GMT
#74537
On August 28 2013 18:24 Klonere wrote:
is there a better feeling in dota than coming back from mega creeps? i actually jumped out of my chair like i was bulba or something.


winning 4v5 is also pretty good feeling when behind. but winning from megas is awesome, only ever done it twice =[
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 10:20:54
August 28 2013 10:20 GMT
#74538
Well considering the best players in Korea currently are like in-house players from other regions I guess it makes sense. Although I would have never thought it would happen.

Go Blotz.
Once you Goblak...
cupoftealove
Profile Joined August 2012
325 Posts
August 28 2013 10:22 GMT
#74539
He said he's playing for either FXO or MVP in the sponsorship league, for minimum 8 months.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-28 10:25:32
August 28 2013 10:23 GMT
#74540
He doesn't know? Or has he gotten multiple offers?

Blitz isn't known as much of a troll, unlike 'every other Dota player', so I would assume it's real.

This tweet from GoDz is also interesting.

Wonder if this is what he's referring to or something bigger.
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