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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 24 2013 17:38 GMT
#73701
On August 25 2013 02:22 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 02:09 Erasme wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:50 trinxified wrote:
Spectre is a frustrating hero to play... When winning, I feel like it wasn't me doing anything, just being carried by mid-game heroes/players, or when losing, I feel like my hero doesn't do much...

I know it's not a particulary bad hero, but in pubs, it's way too hard to get enough farm to actually do anything. Feels like you're always behind in items even though you are farming well. Doesn't make sense.

you probably don't use her ult well. When you have pms/phase and 6, you can ult whenever a gank/fight starts.


That is what I'm doing but at that point, you're not doing much damage either since of low levels (1 level of desolate since I take 1 level of dispersion), and also that 325 radius is quite big and most of the time you aren't doing the bonus damage.

And then when you finally max out desolate (at level 10), you're either still farming for that Radiance so you got no damage or HP to do anything still, or got a yasha/not completed diffusal, which gives you damage but will still rely on your team mates to either stun-lock for you to get anything done. Not to mention her farming speed is still slow and will get slower since no Radiance that early.

I don't mean to QQ and whine about it... I just want some input as to actually play this hero and be impactful.

Did you watch ti3 ? pms/phase/drums then get radiance. Max dagger then desolate, don't bother with dispersion, it doesn't really matter at that point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
August 24 2013 17:53 GMT
#73702
Apparently you can see runes in the mini map now. Neat.
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r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
August 24 2013 18:11 GMT
#73703
really want pro games to happen, wanna see abaddon fuck some people up... not enough pro dotos
Flash Fan!
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 18:23:10
August 24 2013 18:14 GMT
#73704
On August 25 2013 03:11 r_con wrote:
really want pro games to happen, wanna see abaddon fuck some people up... not enough pro dotos

Post-TI is always a busy period of time for progamers, they are occupied gossiping who doesn't like who and wondering which team to go to now
Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
August 24 2013 18:53 GMT
#73705
Yay i just checked im in the very high skilled bracket.

Also got matched with misery and some Chinese pros last game yeah
"Yeah, I send (hopefully) helpful PM's quite frequently. You don't have to warn/ban everything" - KadaverBB
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
August 24 2013 18:59 GMT
#73706
On August 25 2013 02:53 TheEmulator wrote:
Apparently you can see runes in the mini map now. Neat.

Specs only, right? Muh mechanical requirements.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
August 24 2013 18:59 GMT
#73707
Is Very High bracket the highest it goes? Like the same bracket where pros are playing? I'm in that bracket but doesn't feel like it is... I don't feel that I'm that good yet nor are my team mates.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 19:01:22
August 24 2013 19:00 GMT
#73708
Yes, but i'm sure your hidden MMR determines your actual "bracket". Meaning that the highest of highest would play their level of players instead of those who has a lower MMR in "very high bracket".

Unless, i'm just horribly mistaken.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 19:02:24
August 24 2013 19:01 GMT
#73709
On August 25 2013 03:59 trinxified wrote:
Is Very High bracket the highest it goes? Like the same bracket where pros are playing? I'm in that bracket but doesn't feel like it is... I don't feel that I'm that good yet nor are my team mates.


Yes Very High is the highest bracket, but there is a world of difference between first page very high and the area right after hard bracket.

On August 25 2013 03:59 beef42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 02:53 TheEmulator wrote:
Apparently you can see runes in the mini map now. Neat.

Specs only, right? Muh mechanical requirements.


Yes. The patch notes say that runes on minimap are only for spectators.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 24 2013 19:02 GMT
#73710
On August 25 2013 04:00 Grettin wrote:
Yes, but i'm sure your hidden MMR determines your actual "bracket". Meaning that the highest of highest would play their level of players instead of those who has a lower MMR in "very high bracket".

Unless, i'm just horribly mistaken.

this is correct
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 19:12:00
August 24 2013 19:09 GMT
#73711
On August 25 2013 04:01 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Yes. The patch notes say that runes on minimap are only for spectators.

There's a bug where players can see them as well.

The bug report also mentioned a subsequent game crash. Presumably this is something that Valve is looking into at the moment.

On August 25 2013 03:59 trinxified wrote:
Is Very High bracket the highest it goes? Like the same bracket where pros are playing? I'm in that bracket but doesn't feel like it is... I don't feel that I'm that good yet nor are my team mates.

Very High is estimated to be around top ~3%. Which means that it's basically equivalent to Masters/very high Diamond in SC2. Meaning that relative to the overall population you are "good", but in an absolute sense, that's meaningless.
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Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 19:15:11
August 24 2013 19:10 GMT
#73712
On August 25 2013 03:59 trinxified wrote:
Is Very High bracket the highest it goes? Like the same bracket where pros are playing? I'm in that bracket but doesn't feel like it is... I don't feel that I'm that good yet nor are my team mates.

Normal High and Very High are just labels for certain ranges within the rating system.
If i remember correctly, very high includes the top 3.5% of players. This is the equivalent of SCII having a league that goes from top diamond through master to grandmaster, so there is still a great difference between the games played at the top of very high compared to the average very high game.
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 24 2013 19:12 GMT
#73713
i thought everyone got to very high when they win a certain amount.
CustomKal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada749 Posts
August 24 2013 19:18 GMT
#73714
On August 25 2013 04:00 Grettin wrote:
Yes, but i'm sure your hidden MMR determines your actual "bracket". Meaning that the highest of highest would play their level of players instead of those who has a lower MMR in "very high bracket".

Unless, i'm just horribly mistaken.


As has been stated its considered the top 3% or so right now is in very high. So you are better than the majority by far, but that still puts a large variance in skill in very high. remember 3% of 6 million is still 180,000 players.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
August 24 2013 19:19 GMT
#73715
On August 25 2013 04:12 Kuroeeah wrote:
i thought everyone got to very high when they win a certain amount.

Assuming you're not being sarcastic, nope. Win rate/games played have nothing to do with your MMR.
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BigAsia
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada451 Posts
August 24 2013 19:22 GMT
#73716
How do I see my MMR?
YOLO
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
August 24 2013 19:22 GMT
#73717
YES !!!! The -international2012 startup command works again! Yay for beautiful blue background!
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 19:25:46
August 24 2013 19:25 GMT
#73718
On August 25 2013 04:19 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 04:12 Kuroeeah wrote:
i thought everyone got to very high when they win a certain amount.

Assuming you're not being sarcastic, nope. Win rate/games played have nothing to do with your MMR.


So what increases this? Wins for sure, but what else? How you lost and how often? Net worth, CS, GPM, XPM, KDA ratio?
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
August 24 2013 19:27 GMT
#73719
On August 25 2013 04:25 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 04:19 Firebolt145 wrote:
On August 25 2013 04:12 Kuroeeah wrote:
i thought everyone got to very high when they win a certain amount.

Assuming you're not being sarcastic, nope. Win rate/games played have nothing to do with your MMR.


So what increases this? Wins for sure, but what else? How you lost and how often? Net worth, CS, GPM, XPM, KDA ratio?

Probally nothing else.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 24 2013 19:27 GMT
#73720
Mostly wins. Aka if you win matches that you werent supposed to win, you'll go up. Kinda like sc2 mmr without the bonus pool inflation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
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