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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
August 24 2013 15:24 GMT
#73681
On August 24 2013 22:57 Talron wrote:
I've already put some money aside, if I should need to travel to Seattle, should they really implement those Kunkka and Slardar items.

Why not use that money to buy the items? Think about it, if they implement that Sladar item it will have to be taken down after a few days because of the QQ it will stir up.

You could sell that shit for 100 times what you payed for it in half a year... Wish I could spend money on Steam
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
August 24 2013 16:18 GMT
#73682
If you go to Seattle you could potentially earn infinite steam wallet cash
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
gaymon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1023 Posts
August 24 2013 16:33 GMT
#73683
On August 25 2013 01:18 Kupon3ss wrote:
If you go to Seattle you could potentially earn infinite steam wallet cash

Business Plan; attend every single International and buy the entire shop's inventory to create a monopoly of TI items :>
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
August 24 2013 16:50 GMT
#73684
Spectre is a frustrating hero to play... When winning, I feel like it wasn't me doing anything, just being carried by mid-game heroes/players, or when losing, I feel like my hero doesn't do much...

I know it's not a particulary bad hero, but in pubs, it's way too hard to get enough farm to actually do anything. Feels like you're always behind in items even though you are farming well. Doesn't make sense.
Daumen
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1073 Posts
August 24 2013 16:52 GMT
#73685
Is there a Forfeit function for tournament games? can someone explain how they work?
President of the ReaL Fan Club.
deichkind
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden347 Posts
August 24 2013 16:56 GMT
#73686
On August 25 2013 01:52 Daumen wrote:
Is there a Forfeit function for tournament games? can someone explain how they work?


they gg and leave or just leave
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
August 24 2013 16:57 GMT
#73687
For tournament or custom lobbies, typing GG in all chat starts a ten second timer that anyone on the team can cancel, which automatically destroys your ancient upon successfully counting down.
Moderator
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
August 24 2013 17:02 GMT
#73688
On August 25 2013 01:52 Daumen wrote:
Is there a Forfeit function for tournament games? can someone explain how they work?


just all chat "gg" and the game will end automatically within 10 seconds. There is a popup at the right hand corner that gives you the option to cancel.
GentleDrill
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom672 Posts
August 24 2013 17:08 GMT
#73689
On August 25 2013 01:50 trinxified wrote:
Spectre is a frustrating hero to play... When winning, I feel like it wasn't me doing anything, just being carried by mid-game heroes/players, or when losing, I feel like my hero doesn't do much...

I know it's not a particulary bad hero, but in pubs, it's way too hard to get enough farm to actually do anything. Feels like you're always behind in items even though you are farming well. Doesn't make sense.


That's playing hard carries in general.

Spectre's actually the least like that in my experience because of her insane ability to pick off isolated squishies.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 24 2013 17:09 GMT
#73690
On August 25 2013 01:50 trinxified wrote:
Spectre is a frustrating hero to play... When winning, I feel like it wasn't me doing anything, just being carried by mid-game heroes/players, or when losing, I feel like my hero doesn't do much...

I know it's not a particulary bad hero, but in pubs, it's way too hard to get enough farm to actually do anything. Feels like you're always behind in items even though you are farming well. Doesn't make sense.

you probably don't use her ult well. When you have pms/phase and 6, you can ult whenever a gank/fight starts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 17:23:45
August 24 2013 17:22 GMT
#73691
On August 25 2013 02:09 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 01:50 trinxified wrote:
Spectre is a frustrating hero to play... When winning, I feel like it wasn't me doing anything, just being carried by mid-game heroes/players, or when losing, I feel like my hero doesn't do much...

I know it's not a particulary bad hero, but in pubs, it's way too hard to get enough farm to actually do anything. Feels like you're always behind in items even though you are farming well. Doesn't make sense.

you probably don't use her ult well. When you have pms/phase and 6, you can ult whenever a gank/fight starts.


That is what I'm doing but at that point, you're not doing much damage either since of low levels (1 level of desolate since I take 1 level of dispersion), and also that 325 radius is quite big and most of the time you aren't doing the bonus damage.

And then when you finally max out desolate (at level 10), you're either still farming for that Radiance so you got no damage or HP to do anything still, or got a yasha/not completed diffusal, which gives you damage but will still rely on your team mates to either stun-lock for you to get anything done. Not to mention her farming speed is still slow and will get slower since no Radiance that early.

I don't mean to QQ and whine about it... I just want some input as to actually play this hero and be impactful.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
August 24 2013 17:23 GMT
#73692
The spectre I played with earlier today rushed radiance. Literally quelling + some branches and healing stuff into straight radiance - no boots.

I was getting ready to flame her at the end of that game for contributing nothing at all.

But somehow she got radi + manta + heart before any of our raxes fell and started 1v5ing the other team :>
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 17:26:25
August 24 2013 17:25 GMT
#73693
On August 25 2013 02:23 Laurens wrote:
The spectre I played with earlier today rushed radiance. Literally quelling + some branches and healing stuff into straight radiance - no boots.

I was getting ready to flame her at the end of that game for contributing nothing at all.

But somehow she got radi + manta + heart before any of our raxes fell and started 1v5ing the other team :>


Well yeah that's the perfect scenario for Spectre. To be left alone in a lane to freefarm... But then most of the time you're easily harassed out from the lane that forces you to either buy more regen items or start to build early-midgame items just so you can spend your gold before dying or at least survive better from harassment.
Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
August 24 2013 17:30 GMT
#73694
some people max desolate by 7 for more haunt damage
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
August 24 2013 17:30 GMT
#73695
Max desolate first.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 24 2013 17:31 GMT
#73696
On August 25 2013 02:30 Cool Cat wrote:
good people max desolate by 8 for more being useful

fixd
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 17:36:40
August 24 2013 17:31 GMT
#73697
Oh lol so that's what I've been doing wrong... I guess Dagger should be left to Level 1 for only phase ability?

EDIT: just worries me since I almost have no lane presence, and not levelling Dagger to max ASAP will further prevent me from doing any damage at all. No contribution.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
August 24 2013 17:32 GMT
#73698
Haunt > Desolate > Dagger > Dispersion.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 24 2013 17:35 GMT
#73699
On August 25 2013 02:31 trinxified wrote:
Oh lol so that's what I've been doing wrong... I guess Dagger should be left to Level 1 for only phase ability?

its ok to make it lvl 2, 2-2-1-1, then max it
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-24 17:39:33
August 24 2013 17:36 GMT
#73700
On August 25 2013 02:22 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 02:09 Erasme wrote:
On August 25 2013 01:50 trinxified wrote:
Spectre is a frustrating hero to play... When winning, I feel like it wasn't me doing anything, just being carried by mid-game heroes/players, or when losing, I feel like my hero doesn't do much...

I know it's not a particulary bad hero, but in pubs, it's way too hard to get enough farm to actually do anything. Feels like you're always behind in items even though you are farming well. Doesn't make sense.

you probably don't use her ult well. When you have pms/phase and 6, you can ult whenever a gank/fight starts.


That is what I'm doing but at that point, you're not doing much damage either since of low levels (1 level of desolate since I take 1 level of dispersion), and also that 325 radius is quite big and most of the time you aren't doing the bonus damage.

And then when you finally max out desolate (at level 10), you're either still farming for that Radiance so you got no damage or HP to do anything still, or got a yasha/not completed diffusal, which gives you damage but will still rely on your team mates to either stun-lock for you to get anything done. Not to mention her farming speed is still slow and will get slower since no Radiance that early.

I don't mean to QQ and whine about it... I just want some input as to actually play this hero and be impactful.

If you want to be useful early shouldn't you go into something that kicks in faster than radi? I don't think that yasha/diffusal really makes you reliant on teammates,

I mean, i think most carries have the same "issue" and they really can fight early, just need good position ^^
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