EPTOn August 21 2013 06:48 rabidch wrote:
new people should just start with limited heroes/bots
new people should just start with limited heroes/bots
they could buy new heroes with the exp they earned
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FinestHour
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they could buy new heroes with the exp they earned | ||
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crms
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On August 21 2013 06:34 TheYango wrote: The flip side of this is that Riot matchmaking has virtually no accounting for smurfs--fresh accounts that are not fresh players spend a LOT longer playing with low level players in LoL than they do in DotA. I expect that this is an intentional choice by Valve. A very good choice I may add. Smurfing in dota 2 is much less rewarding for the 'lols' for good players to bother with and less of a nightmare for genuine new players. You might get 10ish games on a new smurf where you stomp the team into oblivion but after that you're likely to be playing other smurfs or low tier 'very high' players. It really doesn't take long at all to get into the upper echelon on a new dota account. | ||
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On August 21 2013 06:49 FinestHour wrote: they could buy new heroes with the exp they earned cool idea | ||
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crms
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On August 21 2013 06:51 Kuroeeah wrote: "very high" doesn't mean anything. according to dotametrics 'very high' is the top ~3.3% of players. I'd agree it doesn't mean much in the sense that it doesn't mean you're any good, I play clueless people everyday in 'very high' but it does have a certain metric attached to it. I mean it's basically like if you took grandmasters->high diamond and put them into 1 player pool. That variance is insane. | ||
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Ryuu314
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On August 21 2013 06:03 Unleashing wrote: Yes but if you try to do anything that isn't what the norm you'll be called a troll and your team will start feeding/throwing/surrendering. So the MM essentially forces certain positions to be in all games. The first sentence is true at some skill levels, but it has nothign to do with the matchmaking algorithm... | ||
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misirlou
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On August 21 2013 06:49 FinestHour wrote: they could buy new heroes with the exp they earned I do play one game of bots every now and then but it gets old fast. Limited heroes also gets old after you played the 20 heroes | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On August 21 2013 07:02 Ryuu314 wrote: The first sentence is true at some skill levels, but it has nothign to do with the matchmaking algorithm... Now if you were able to read the post i quoted, i was answering his question. Not talking about the matchmaking algorithm. | ||
TheYango
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On August 21 2013 06:51 Kuroeeah wrote: "very high" doesn't mean anything. Well it pulls you very clearly out of "new players" territory, which is the point. If your MMR is pulled up to "very high" then it means that you were very rapidly separated from ruining games with new players in them despite being vastly better than them. | ||
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misirlou
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On August 21 2013 07:17 Unleashing wrote: Now if you were able to read the post i quoted, i was answering his question. Not talking about the matchmaking algorithm. But you somehow managed to link forced positions by the players with the riot matchmaking. If someone trolls a position in lol (say ashe support) they may loose the game on that even if the team tries or they just surrender. The team is forced a loss but the player doing the trolling is going to get more losses than the teammates and therefore drop mmr. If the same were to happen in dota because someone tries something that simply doesnt work over and over and loose not because of surrenders but simply because there is no way to overcome the disadvantage, the same dude will drop more mmr than his teammates (because teammates only loose 1 game and he looses several), until he gets to a level where that strat actually works (on baddies) | ||
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Unleashing
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On August 21 2013 07:22 misirlou wrote: But you somehow managed to link forced positions by the players with the riot matchmaking. If someone trolls a position in lol (say ashe support) they may loose the game on that even if the team tries or they just surrender. The team is forced a loss but the player doing the trolling is going to get more losses than the teammates and therefore drop mmr. If the same were to happen in dota because someone tries something that simply doesnt work over and over and loose not because of surrenders but simply because there is no way to overcome the disadvantage, the same dude will drop more mmr than his teammates (because teammates only loose 1 game and he looses several), until he gets to a level where that strat actually works (on baddies) The way matchmaking(Not the algorithm or the way the matchmaking works, but the games you end up in) in LoL tends to work out is that you end up with people filling the same positions every single game and if you try to do something that isn't the norm people tend to freak out or get annoyed. To me, this is the matchmaking forcing you into playing certain positions. | ||
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On August 21 2013 01:48 Alur wrote: Automated channel that streams the current highest rated pub game: http://www.twitch.tv/dollarbg Pretty neat. That's pretty neat. Should be some funny games. | ||
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On August 21 2013 07:41 3772 wrote: No. Go outside, you are in Canada, wtf man? I would be going outside to the iternet cafe | ||
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