EPTyeah, i'm pretty sure for max hero performance you just need a 75%+ winrate (and >4 games)
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China13814 Posts
yeah, i'm pretty sure for max hero performance you just need a 75%+ winrate (and >4 games) | ||
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Najda
United States3765 Posts
The noobs are making mistakes and the other one isn't good enough to capitalize on it, while the pros just avoid the mistakes, resulting in overall similar gpm/xpm. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On August 21 2013 10:27 TheYango wrote: I don't think most of these things would be basic visible statistics. However, there are a lot of things not visible to you in any form that Valve could data mine from replays that in many cases are highly indicative of a good player. The best example that comes to me immediately is how often someone clicks on his opponents to view their items. This is such a bad example. You really only have to check items some few times. You check for boots if you plan an early gank. You check for dust/sentries/gem when you rely on invis. You check for bkb on heroes you want to focus in an upcoming teamfight. You check for dagger/shadowbladeforcestaff on heroes that can stun. For example I would never check a jakiros items if I don't have any invis heroes in my team. You can often tell most of what you need to know from the minimap and from just watching the enemy heroes attack/move. There are ways to tell if a player is good, but I know of no such way that can be expressed as a number. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
Most stats are useless because they're role dependent. I think if you attach it to certain heroes it could be worthwhile. On average a better player will have a better cs by 10 minutes. | ||
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
some players have better mechanical superiority in terms of last hitting than others and is an easily distinguishable factor (one of many). just general lane control. | ||
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/kotlguy | ||
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
On August 21 2013 06:48 rabidch wrote: new people should just start with limited heroes/bots I probably wouldn't have enjoyed dota at all if I was forced to play out of the limited hero pool. My friend who was decent at the game taught me the general role info and the basics of supporting and then I was on my own. The first hero I really started practicing was Invoker, who seemed far more interesting than any of the other heroes. So in practicing him I became invested in dota, and then expanded my hero pool / overall game knowledge. Coming from bw and sc2, I find heroes like skeleton king and sven to be unenjoyably boring to play because you don't do anything on them but right click. My second main hero was furion (also not in limited). So personally if I'd have been forced to play the limited heroes I'd probably have decided the game was boring and not worth playing and stayed with sc2. When you know nothing about the game you're drawn to the heroes who look or seem interesting (or maybe the heroes who rape in the games you see), and your attraction to the hero leads to an attraction with the game itself. Limiting options doesn't let people explore everything dota has to offer-- and first impressions matter. | ||
TheEmulator
28103 Posts
On August 21 2013 15:49 Kuroeeah wrote: i dont usually promote streams but this guy. http://www.twitch.tv/kotlguy Ok that is one of the funniest things I have ever seen  | ||
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Wrongspeedy
United States1655 Posts
On August 21 2013 16:07 TheEmulator wrote: Ok that is one of the funniest things I have ever seen Hahah I clicked on it and he was listening to "Take a load off fanny". If I had been drinking something it would have come out my nose. | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
Did you Know IceIceIce is the world strongest mid solo , He joined 210 small mid solo tournament and 56 Big Mid Solo Tournament and has never lost before . He won 6 times against Yaphets's Sf , 5 times against Ferrari430 Invoker ,5 Times Against Mushi's Akasha ....Even the son of magnus (S4) Claimed him to be the greatest Mid solo in the History of dota ...No one in dota history can fight him more than 10mins ...Making him the god of solo In Dota 2 Source: Alliance facebook page. Legit? O.o | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
what? | ||
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Dubzex
United States6994 Posts
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
On August 21 2013 18:02 Dubzex wrote: Clearly isn't the best if he hasn't beat yajirobefromdc. Undefeated Shadow Fiend still to this day. | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
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EnumaAvalon
Philippines3613 Posts
On August 21 2013 18:37 BlitzerSC wrote: 1v1 =/= Mid solo True but when people try to pit individuals 1v1 it's usually solo mid because it's the "fair" lane. Arguably, offlaners like LoH are also pretty good but they're good at surviving and not always at beating the opposing dual, solo or tri in their lane. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On August 21 2013 12:52 Mataza wrote: This is such a bad example. You really only have to check items some few times. You check for boots if you plan an early gank. You check for dust/sentries/gem when you rely on invis. You check for bkb on heroes you want to focus in an upcoming teamfight. You check for dagger/shadowbladeforcestaff on heroes that can stun. For example I would never check a jakiros items if I don't have any invis heroes in my team. You can often tell most of what you need to know from the minimap and from just watching the enemy heroes attack/move. There are ways to tell if a player is good, but I know of no such way that can be expressed as a number. Erm that's not true at all. Checking a jakiros items are often very useful. You see if he has a tp which is important when prepping a dive. Can check if he has obs wards on him(Either unused or 1 stack) then if you keep checking you can get hints at where he has warded so you can either avoid the ward or remove it. I would never intentionally not check a heroes items. You should be checking their whole team constantly. Actually think checking for tps is one of the most important things you can do. Allows you to punish a mistake pretty easily that you wouldn't otherwise punish if you didn't check. | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
It also affects how a player estimates how much spells/damage that he should ditch out in different situations, Dendi checks the enemy inventory really quick very frequently (same to most 'veteran' pros) but you see players like Sing rarely do that (and he often wrongly estimated the damage etc), which is also why i fcking love yaphets/PIS, his estimation of dealing X amount of damage is so damn impressive. | ||
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