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Naturedota
Profile Joined August 2013
74 Posts
August 15 2013 14:13 GMT
#72001
Yeah, i think its a good game. Even though at first it felt very boring because seemed that it is just waiting around and running map back and forth (it still is running alot to base to buy stuff), but the general quality of the games has been improving since then for some reason.
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
August 15 2013 14:15 GMT
#72002
On August 15 2013 23:11 BurningSera wrote:
Welcome to the dota world!!!

You don't see the "real" Doto world till you get stomped by Bloodseeker and Pudge.
fleeze
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany895 Posts
August 15 2013 14:15 GMT
#72003
On August 15 2013 23:13 Naturedota wrote:
Yeah, i think its a good game. Even though at first it felt very boring because seemed that it is just waiting around and running map back and forth (it still is running alot to base to buy stuff), but the general quality of the games has been improving since then for some reason.

stop it. read some guides and then come back...
if you run to the base to BUY items you have no clue about the game anyway and shouldn't post here.
btw: GET A FCUKING COURIER.
Delphiki
Profile Joined October 2012
Philippines1955 Posts
August 15 2013 14:16 GMT
#72004
On August 15 2013 23:01 Naturedota wrote:
I understand that, but still... I have encountered shadow demons who absotelutely kill everything. Same thing with night stalker, who just kills everything with auto attacking. One thing in common with those heroes is that they are not described as carry, but still fullfill that role more than enough. Also I have had much succes with shadow demon with my heavy dmg item build, often times ended up carrying whole team.

its because you're matched up against people who's just starting to play. Let TL correct your mentality while it's early please
Naturedota
Profile Joined August 2013
74 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 14:17:43
August 15 2013 14:16 GMT
#72005
courier usually is there, but often times its faster to just run back or have a teleport because courier is going somewhere else but I cant always have space for teleport item.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 15 2013 14:18 GMT
#72006
On August 15 2013 23:16 Naturedota wrote:
courier usually is there, but often times its faster to just run back or have a teleport but I cant always have space for teleport item.

You should ALWAYS have space for teleport item.

For the most part until you get better at the game, it's best to pretend you don't have 6 inventory slots, but have 5 + 1 spot reserved for TP.
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Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
August 15 2013 14:18 GMT
#72007
On August 15 2013 23:13 Naturedota wrote:
Yeah, i think its a good game. Even though at first it felt very boring because seemed that it is just waiting around and running map back and forth (it still is running alot to base to buy stuff), but the general quality of the games has been improving since then for some reason.


You shouldn't ever be running back to base just to buy stuff if you're doing fine on health and mana. You're missing a ton of xp and gold by doing so, which sets you behind on your lane. Use the courier and side- and secret shop.

Anyway doctor orders you more playing and less hoarding GD.
Naturedota
Profile Joined August 2013
74 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 14:19:46
August 15 2013 14:19 GMT
#72008
But then my hero quality drops if I replace stat bonus item with teleport. What is GD?
fleeze
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany895 Posts
August 15 2013 14:20 GMT
#72009
On August 15 2013 23:19 Naturedota wrote:
But then my hero quality drops if I replace stat bonus item with teleport.

stop ARGUING. you know nothing, naturedota. and i'm sure you're trolling after this amount of posts about trivial stuff every noob guide covers.
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
August 15 2013 14:20 GMT
#72010
guy, are you trolling ?
Ejohrik
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden219 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 14:24:07
August 15 2013 14:21 GMT
#72011
About all the Shadow Demon talk. Can Naturedota talking about Shadow Fiend? SF auto-attacks pretty hard with souls and farm...

EDIT: Nvm. Post below just confirms the trolling even more...
Naturedota
Profile Joined August 2013
74 Posts
August 15 2013 14:22 GMT
#72012
I know that teleport is recommended, but I always though that I can afford to run back to base to buy 10 mana potions and health items, so I dont have to run back for some time.

User was banned for this post.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
August 15 2013 14:23 GMT
#72013
Nice trolling buddy, now gtfo. Mkay ?
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
August 15 2013 14:24 GMT
#72014
On August 15 2013 23:22 Naturedota wrote:
I know that teleport is recommended, but I always though that I can afford to run back to base to buy 10 mana potions and health items, so I dont have to run back for some time.


Do you like Mangix?

I like Jah'rakal better.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 14:25:48
August 15 2013 14:25 GMT
#72015
Part of the depth of item selection in DotA is balancing item cost-effectiveness with item slot-effectiveness (i.e. items that cost more typically are less cost-effective, but give you more stats in one slot). Think about it like the balance between massing low-tier units vs. teching in an RTS. Massing low-tier units gives you a stronger army now, but unless that army turns into an immediate advantage, you can't expect that army to stay relevant without upgrades and higher-tier units. Teching up requires an investment that cuts into your current combat effectiveness, but pays dividends in the long run. You have to balance your early/midgame items with your big lategame items the same way you balance low-tier units with teching to higher-tier ones. You can't tech straight to BCs and expect to win (the equivalent of buying Crystalys first every game), but you also can't expect to win by building only Zerglings and never teching to Lair either (the equivalent of stacking bracers to 6 slots).
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akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
August 15 2013 14:27 GMT
#72016
On August 15 2013 23:24 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 23:22 Naturedota wrote:
I know that teleport is recommended, but I always though that I can afford to run back to base to buy 10 mana potions and health items, so I dont have to run back for some time.


Do you like Mangix?

I like Jah'rakal better.

Rotund'jere is way better than Jah'rakal!
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
August 15 2013 14:27 GMT
#72017
On August 15 2013 23:27 akatama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 23:24 BurningSera wrote:
On August 15 2013 23:22 Naturedota wrote:
I know that teleport is recommended, but I always though that I can afford to run back to base to buy 10 mana potions and health items, so I dont have to run back for some time.


Do you like Mangix?

I like Jah'rakal better.

Rotund'jere is way better than Jah'rakal!

Aurel Vlaicu > all. Sorry bro, I won.
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
August 15 2013 14:28 GMT
#72018
For the record, you are all awful to naturedota.
I hope that you aren't really stuck thinking "This guy is a carry therefore only he can build damage items".

In beginner level games, every hero can carry. Never forget that.
1. If you can't save for the expensive items, try to die less or get more money by trying to get the lasthit on dying enemies.
2. I would recommend aghanims scepter on Juggernaut. The parts cost only 1k or 1.2k, it increases your ultimate to do even more obscene damage.
3. For damage on intelligence heroes, the most cookie cutter item is orchid malevolence. It is build from 2 oblivion staffs and a recipe. The parts cost only 900 gold or less so you don't need to save much gold. The active ability of that item silences enemies and does increases damage done to that enemy.

While we're at active items, find shadowblade. It costs 3k gold, but it makes you invisible. When you're invisible nobody can kill you. People can buy detection to see and attack you again, but it is kinda expensive.
I prophecy that you will have tons of success with shadowblade.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 15 2013 14:28 GMT
#72019
On August 15 2013 23:27 akatama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 23:24 BurningSera wrote:
On August 15 2013 23:22 Naturedota wrote:
I know that teleport is recommended, but I always though that I can afford to run back to base to buy 10 mana potions and health items, so I dont have to run back for some time.


Do you like Mangix?

I like Jah'rakal better.

Rotund'jere is way better than Jah'rakal!

Strygwyr (no vowels!!)
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Reivax
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden214 Posts
August 15 2013 14:31 GMT
#72020
On August 15 2013 23:27 Talron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 23:27 akatama wrote:
On August 15 2013 23:24 BurningSera wrote:
On August 15 2013 23:22 Naturedota wrote:
I know that teleport is recommended, but I always though that I can afford to run back to base to buy 10 mana potions and health items, so I dont have to run back for some time.


Do you like Mangix?

I like Jah'rakal better.

Rotund'jere is way better than Jah'rakal!

Aurel Vlaicu > all. Sorry bro, I won.


Nochthitus disagrees. Now you're dead. Ggnore.
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