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Fwizzz
Philippines4420 Posts
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
On August 15 2013 23:28 Mataza wrote: For the record, you are all awful to naturedota. I hope that you aren't really stuck thinking "This guy is a carry therefore only he can build damage items". In beginner level games, every hero can carry. Never forget that. 1. If you can't save for the expensive items, try to die less or get more money by trying to get the lasthit on dying enemies. 2. I would recommend aghanims scepter on Juggernaut. The parts cost only 1k or 1.2k, it increases your ultimate to do even more obscene damage. 3. For damage on intelligence heroes, the most cookie cutter item is orchid malevolence. It is build from 2 oblivion staffs and a recipe. The parts cost only 900 gold or less so you don't need to save much gold. The active ability of that item silences enemies and does increases damage done to that enemy. While we're at active items, find shadowblade. It costs 3k gold, but it makes you invisible. When you're invisible nobody can kill you. People can buy detection to see and attack you again, but it is kinda expensive. I prophecy that you will have tons of success with shadowblade. I challenge you to create a smurf and then carry a game with Crystal Maiden. | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
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fleeze
Germany895 Posts
On August 15 2013 23:33 BlitzerSC wrote: I challenge you to create a smurf and then carry a game with Crystal Maiden. with crystalys! | ||
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Caladbolg
2855 Posts
Anyway, I've recently focused on semi carries who do well without a whole lot of space to farm. Mainly kunkka Mirana and jugg. In that context (lack of farm), is drums really he best after phase? For jugg I find more success with a point booster and rushing agha (since with it I can even kill an over farmed carry), with kunk I rush crysta, and with potm I try to rush a maelstrom so I can farm faster and dish out damage in clashes via the chain lightning. The drums delay the significant pieces of my build a bit too much. Is it still really worthwhile? | ||
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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
On August 15 2013 23:31 Reivax wrote: Nochthitus disagrees. Now you're dead. Ggnore. I actually had to look that one up. | ||
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Reivax
Sweden214 Posts
Bet you think that Burning's played dota for a long time too :/ | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Crits-all Maiden. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
On August 15 2013 23:32 Fwizzz wrote: Anyone from SEA having high pings? Or is it just ph players having problems. i'm getting high ping from beijing too i dunno On August 15 2013 23:34 Caladbolg wrote: Yango is a hero. Anyway, I've recently focused on semi carries who do well without a whole lot of space to farm. Mainly kunkka Mirana and jugg. In that context (lack of farm), is drums really he best after phase? For jugg I find more success with a point booster and rushing agha (since with it I can even kill an over farmed carry), with kunk I rush crysta, and with potm I try to rush a maelstrom so I can farm faster and dish out damage in clashes via the chain lightning. The drums delay the significant pieces of my build a bit too much. Is it still really worthwhile? it's situational on all of them, they're all reasonable flexible in terms of item build kunkka shadow blade is more important than crit. usually drums is nice for the mana pool though, urn is nice too if noone is getting one, bfury is ok but kind of overkill tbh, sny is ok makes you run really fast, etc mirana i like drums + yasha cus it makes you run really fast. there's a ton of other items that are fine first though, like diffusal versus warlock/omni (or in general to land arrows), hotd for farming, shadow blade is ok if you're roaming a lot, linkens if you're the main carry, etc jugg i like bfury first. drums yasha is fun too to run fast, shadow blade is nice, deso is decent, sny is decent, radi is ok but hard to farm, etc | ||
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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
On August 15 2013 23:36 Reivax wrote: Bet you think that Burning's played dota for a long time too :/ Huh? | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Well played. I've actually SEEN a carry Crystal Maiden before...and we won. O_O Also relevant: seen the latest NerfNow arc then? "GIVE ME SIX DIVINE RAPIERS!" | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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EnumaAvalon
Philippines3613 Posts
On August 15 2013 23:32 Fwizzz wrote: Anyone from SEA having high pings? Or is it just ph players having problems. I played earlier. All good. | ||
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whoso
Germany523 Posts
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Fwizzz
Philippines4420 Posts
I see. Most of my friends had 400-600 pings. Gotta check if it got better. | ||
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ForTheDr3am
842 Posts
On August 15 2013 23:34 Caladbolg wrote: Yango is a hero. Anyway, I've recently focused on semi carries who do well without a whole lot of space to farm. Mainly kunkka Mirana and jugg. In that context (lack of farm), is drums really he best after phase? For jugg I find more success with a point booster and rushing agha (since with it I can even kill an over farmed carry), with kunk I rush crysta, and with potm I try to rush a maelstrom so I can farm faster and dish out damage in clashes via the chain lightning. The drums delay the significant pieces of my build a bit too much. Is it still really worthwhile? In the context of lack of farm, Jugger most likely should not go Aghanims since it tends best on him if he is overfarmed/leveled while his opponents are underfarmed/leveled. Drums into Manta is perfectly fine, although you can also buy Vlads for the team or anything else that fits the situation. Kunkka without farm should not really exist, and Shadow Blade is still rather necessary. Mirana has the advantage that she does not die easily even without much farm, so you can get away with greedy builds against some lineups. I have done a lot of Yasha into MKB/Deso/Crit before finishing the Manta style if I felt that the damage output would be needed, else I just built the Manta directly. Drums are alright on her, but by no means mandatory. For Maelstom to be effective you actually need the time and space to farm up after getting it, and it pales a bit if everybody has BKB or if you need to focus a guy down but the lightning just won't proc. | ||
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EnumaAvalon
Philippines3613 Posts
On August 16 2013 00:06 Fwizzz wrote: I see. Most of my friends had 400-600 pings. Gotta check if it got better. It happens to me sometimes. PLDT's DSL gets spikes sometimes. You can wait it out or see if they're on SEA server and not Chinese. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On August 16 2013 00:07 ForTheDr3am wrote: "There is a situation in which juggernaut should not get aghanims scepter" No | ||
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fleeze
Germany895 Posts
bad answer and wrong, too. hint: agha doesn't help early pushing. | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
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