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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
August 15 2013 15:35 GMT
#72041
On August 16 2013 00:25 BlitzerSC wrote:
Where does Huskar gets his spears from ?


The Nothl Realm.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 15 2013 15:38 GMT
#72042
Hey guys, okay random question here.

Whenever I play my first dota game of the day (after opening dota), my windows mic volume is put to 0. I think this is a command in the autoexec config or maybe just the normal config.

Any ideas what is doing this?
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Delphiki
Profile Joined October 2012
Philippines1955 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 15:50:07
August 15 2013 15:48 GMT
#72043
On August 15 2013 23:32 Fwizzz wrote:
Anyone from SEA having high pings? Or is it just ph players having problems.

Only on ph i think. I was lagging a bit hard too a while ago

edit. is pldt your connection?
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
August 15 2013 15:54 GMT
#72044
On August 16 2013 00:48 Delphiki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 23:32 Fwizzz wrote:
Anyone from SEA having high pings? Or is it just ph players having problems.

Only on ph i think. I was lagging a bit hard too a while ago

edit. is pldt your connection?


yeah pldt. ping is back to normal now though.
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
August 15 2013 16:01 GMT
#72045
Yo guys I've just got invited to the "Infite Crisis" DC Universe DotA game closed beta. I didn't even know I've signed up for that, lol.
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 15 2013 16:18 GMT
#72046
You can play as the Batman

No, even better, I heard you can play 2 different kinds of Batman.
WriterXiao8~~
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 15 2013 16:18 GMT
#72047
On August 15 2013 23:51 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 23:36 Asha` wrote:
On August 15 2013 23:34 fleeze wrote:
On August 15 2013 23:33 BlitzerSC wrote:
On August 15 2013 23:28 Mataza wrote:
For the record, you are all awful to naturedota.
I hope that you aren't really stuck thinking "This guy is a carry therefore only he can build damage items".

In beginner level games, every hero can carry. Never forget that.
1. If you can't save for the expensive items, try to die less or get more money by trying to get the lasthit on dying enemies.
2. I would recommend aghanims scepter on Juggernaut. The parts cost only 1k or 1.2k, it increases your ultimate to do even more obscene damage.
3. For damage on intelligence heroes, the most cookie cutter item is orchid malevolence. It is build from 2 oblivion staffs and a recipe. The parts cost only 900 gold or less so you don't need to save much gold. The active ability of that item silences enemies and does increases damage done to that enemy.

While we're at active items, find shadowblade. It costs 3k gold, but it makes you invisible. When you're invisible nobody can kill you. People can buy detection to see and attack you again, but it is kinda expensive.
I prophecy that you will have tons of success with shadowblade.


I challenge you to create a smurf and then carry a game with Crystal Maiden.

with crystalys!


Crits-all Maiden.


Well played.


I've actually SEEN a carry Crystal Maiden before...and we won. O_O

Also relevant: seen the latest NerfNow arc then? "GIVE ME SIX DIVINE RAPIERS!"

Technically, having buriza+5 give you more DMG.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 15 2013 16:20 GMT
#72048
On August 16 2013 01:18 Kipsate wrote:
You can play as the Batman

No, even better, I heard you can play 2 different kinds of Batman.

Nightstalker and batrider?
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Shadowpostin
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany798 Posts
August 15 2013 16:22 GMT
#72049
does anyone else think the bat looks like a gimp?
allow me to demonstrate the skill of shaolin
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 16:28:17
August 15 2013 16:26 GMT
#72050
On August 15 2013 23:33 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 23:28 Mataza wrote:
For the record, you are all awful to naturedota.
I hope that you aren't really stuck thinking "This guy is a carry therefore only he can build damage items".

In beginner level games, every hero can carry. Never forget that.
1. If you can't save for the expensive items, try to die less or get more money by trying to get the lasthit on dying enemies.
2. I would recommend aghanims scepter on Juggernaut. The parts cost only 1k or 1.2k, it increases your ultimate to do even more obscene damage.
3. For damage on intelligence heroes, the most cookie cutter item is orchid malevolence. It is build from 2 oblivion staffs and a recipe. The parts cost only 900 gold or less so you don't need to save much gold. The active ability of that item silences enemies and does increases damage done to that enemy.

While we're at active items, find shadowblade. It costs 3k gold, but it makes you invisible. When you're invisible nobody can kill you. People can buy detection to see and attack you again, but it is kinda expensive.
I prophecy that you will have tons of success with shadowblade.


I challenge you to create a smurf and then carry a game with Crystal Maiden.


Does this count
http://dotabuff.com/matches/105104180

Still my all time xpm record !
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
August 15 2013 16:27 GMT
#72051
On August 16 2013 00:22 fleeze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 00:15 Mataza wrote:
On August 16 2013 00:07 ForTheDr3am wrote:
"There is a situation in which juggernaut should not get aghanims scepter"

No

bad answer and wrong, too.
hint: agha doesn't help early pushing.

It easily double your manapool allowing you to use healing ward without fear of running out of mana too quickly. You become a lot tankier thanks to the hp. And since towers are most likely defended, the ability to tank some spells and put a healing ward actually helps a lot in a push. As does the ability to win a teamfight if the enemy team goes for it.

What items help with pushing(a.k.a. towerkilling)? In order of effectiveness: necrobook, assault cuirass, desolator, manta, mek, vlads, drums.
I wonder what you would get instead of aghanims.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 15 2013 16:36 GMT
#72052
It's hard to argue for Aghanim's as a stat item, seeing as it doesn't give any stats over Ultimate Orb + Point Booster. If you're going to compare it to Drums+Yasha/Ultimate Orb, BKB, etc. it has to be justified on the power of the ultimate upgrade, which varies too widely based on the enemy team. For example, against Illusion heroes, it's very hard to rely on your ultimate for damage.
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fleeze
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany895 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 16:42:23
August 15 2013 16:40 GMT
#72053
On August 16 2013 01:27 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 00:22 fleeze wrote:
On August 16 2013 00:15 Mataza wrote:
On August 16 2013 00:07 ForTheDr3am wrote:
"There is a situation in which juggernaut should not get aghanims scepter"

No

bad answer and wrong, too.
hint: agha doesn't help early pushing.

It easily double your manapool allowing you to use healing ward without fear of running out of mana too quickly. You become a lot tankier thanks to the hp. And since towers are most likely defended, the ability to tank some spells and put a healing ward actually helps a lot in a push. As does the ability to win a teamfight if the enemy team goes for it.

What items help with pushing(a.k.a. towerkilling)? In order of effectiveness: necrobook, assault cuirass, desolator, manta, mek, vlads, drums.
I wonder what you would get instead of aghanims.

i was talking about EARLY pushing, you know, the reason you pick a juggernaut at all. so you get drums of course.

btw, it's so easy to chose this scenario because your answer was just bad and the part you quoted way too general.
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
August 15 2013 16:43 GMT
#72054
I don't like the aghs build on Jugg. It makes you rely completely on your ult and you're pretty much useless when it's down because you do ass damage. Not to mention you're going to be sitting on a lot of dead gold until it is completed. Phase/drums/yasha into something else is still the best build.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 15 2013 16:46 GMT
#72055
On August 16 2013 01:40 fleeze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 01:27 Mataza wrote:
On August 16 2013 00:22 fleeze wrote:
On August 16 2013 00:15 Mataza wrote:
On August 16 2013 00:07 ForTheDr3am wrote:
"There is a situation in which juggernaut should not get aghanims scepter"

No

bad answer and wrong, too.
hint: agha doesn't help early pushing.

It easily double your manapool allowing you to use healing ward without fear of running out of mana too quickly. You become a lot tankier thanks to the hp. And since towers are most likely defended, the ability to tank some spells and put a healing ward actually helps a lot in a push. As does the ability to win a teamfight if the enemy team goes for it.

What items help with pushing(a.k.a. towerkilling)? In order of effectiveness: necrobook, assault cuirass, desolator, manta, mek, vlads, drums.
I wonder what you would get instead of aghanims.

i was talking about EARLY pushing, you know, the reason you pick a juggernaut at all. so you get drums of course.

btw, it's so easy to chose this scenario because your answer was just bad and the part you quoted way too general.

What, you pick(random) juggernaut to chop people.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
August 15 2013 16:47 GMT
#72056
You guys have a way too narrow view of how heroes should be played aghs is a fine choice on jugg sometimes, but some games you just have to rice for a while so you can 1v5 teams in which case it's not a great early item.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
August 15 2013 16:48 GMT
#72057
On August 16 2013 01:47 5-s wrote:
You guys have a way too narrow view of how heroes should be played aghs is a fine choice on jugg sometimes, but some games you just have to rice for a while so you can 1v5 teams in which case it's not a great early item.


There you have it, the 5-s run down. Everyone go home, and stop spamming aghs every game. Learn to read the situation.
secret - never again
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
August 15 2013 16:49 GMT
#72058
On August 16 2013 01:43 Daozzt wrote:
I don't like the aghs build on Jugg. It makes you rely completely on your ult and you're pretty much useless when it's down because you do ass damage. Not to mention you're going to be sitting on a lot of dead gold until it is completed. Phase/drums/yasha into something else is still the best build.

you dont make 6 aghanims, you make agha, manta, deso, basher, butterfly
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
August 15 2013 16:51 GMT
#72059
You should know 5-s that only legit good players(extremely good amateurs and above) don't view item/build progression as something stale not to be touched.
I for one, whenever I see someone saying 'you should get x on y', automatically think of them as bad.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
fleeze
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany895 Posts
August 15 2013 16:53 GMT
#72060
On August 16 2013 01:51 Steveling wrote:
You should know 5-s that only legit good players(extremely good amateurs and above) don't view item/build progression as something stale not to be touched.
I for one, whenever I see someone saying 'you should get x on y', automatically think of them as bad.

this was exactly my point.
you have to define the scenario to pick the best item.

a general "aghs is always good" is never the right answer. you can always find a case where it doesn't fit.
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