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On August 15 2013 21:29 Naturedota wrote:
Usually I have bought the armor which returns all damage taken, after bying crystallys sword. The armor just gives too good stats + dmg mirror is good.
crit is crap without attack speed. blade mail is only good in some circumstances. you'll learn someday if you don't think you can judge items and heroes absolutely with your totally limited experience. which is exactly what you do in this thread.
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Why the blade mail is not good? it is like second or third best item regarding stats. It should be generally good item.
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Remember kids, lothars goes with everything.
Also blademail doesn't have a lot of stats for the money you invest into it and the active is only situationally good against some heroes as some heroes.
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blade mail is something like 2200 or 2400 gold. Better stat items cost way more.
I cant understand why blade mail is not general purpose good item.
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Can we move this discussion to Simple Questions Simple Answers?
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Lalalaland34507 Posts
SK doesn't just stand for Sand King and Skeleton King; you're forgetting about Soul Keeper too, although he hasn't been introduced to Dota 2 yet. ^_^
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On August 15 2013 22:09 Naturedota wrote:
blade mail is something like 2200 or 2400 gold. Better stat items cost way more.
I cant understand why blade mail is not general purpose good item.
how does it help you kill heroes after charging? not at all. nuff said.
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On August 15 2013 22:10 Firebolt145 wrote:
SK doesn't just stand for Sand King and Skeleton King; you're forgetting about Soul Keeper too, although he hasn't been introduced to Dota 2 yet. ^_^
who on earth calls him soul keeper. he's Terrorblade.
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On August 15 2013 22:12 fleeze wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 22:09 Naturedota wrote:
blade mail is something like 2200 or 2400 gold. Better stat items cost way more.
I cant understand why blade mail is not general purpose good item. how does it help you kill heroes after charging? not at all. nuff said.
Its the stats that are good, and mirroring damage taken helps to take down your opponent.
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Lalalaland34507 Posts
On August 15 2013 22:12 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 22:10 Firebolt145 wrote:
SK doesn't just stand for Sand King and Skeleton King; you're forgetting about Soul Keeper too, although he hasn't been introduced to Dota 2 yet. ^_^ who on earth calls him soul keeper. he's Terrorblade.
We've been through this before. DotA had many isolated scenes around the world, each with their own favoured terminology. A few of those scenes called him SK instead of TB.
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On August 15 2013 22:14 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 22:12 PrinceXizor wrote:On August 15 2013 22:10 Firebolt145 wrote:
SK doesn't just stand for Sand King and Skeleton King; you're forgetting about Soul Keeper too, although he hasn't been introduced to Dota 2 yet. ^_^ who on earth calls him soul keeper. he's Terrorblade. We've been through this before. DotA had many isolated scenes around the world, each with their own favoured terminology. A few of those scenes called him SK instead of TB.
those scenes are dumb.
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On August 15 2013 22:13 Naturedota wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 22:12 fleeze wrote:On August 15 2013 22:09 Naturedota wrote:
blade mail is something like 2200 or 2400 gold. Better stat items cost way more.
I cant understand why blade mail is not general purpose good item. how does it help you kill heroes after charging? not at all. nuff said. Its the stats that are good, and mirroring damage taken helps to take down your opponent.
dunno why you argue. you don't know anything about the game.
the enemy has to attack you for bladmail to do damage. NOBODY attacks a spirit breaker that just charged in and activates blademail.
also: you have a BASH passive. you want attack speed for more bashes obviously. not some useless item that gives you more int.
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
+22 damage +6 armor +10 int for 2200 is not good stats. It doesn't give you any hp, and damage wise it's not fantastic, either. The damage part is pretty damn bad, too. Look at phase boots: 24 damage for 1350gold.
If you want good stats look at drums. 1750gold +9 all stats +3 damage, an aura and an active aoe boost. That's good stats.
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I am not talking about spirit breaker, just generally that blade mail is good item.
Drums - 12 dmg total bonus, 1750gold, its not far from blade mail cost wise, and blade mail has like triple the dmg.
Boots are good, but having them does not mean you cant have blade mail, you can also have crystallys. I usually get all three.
Of course there are better dmg items than blade mail but they cost thousands more gold.
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On August 15 2013 22:19 Naturedota wrote:
I am not talking about spirit breaker, just generally that blade mail is good item. Also, if no one attacks charging SB, then there is no need to active the item at that point.
Drums - 12 dmg total bonus, 1750gold, its not far from blade mail cost wise, and blade mail has like triple the dmg.
Boots are good, but having them does not mean you cant have blade mail, you can also have crystallys. I usually get all three.
Okay look at what you get for the cost 22 damage is is about 1100 gold 6 armor is 650 gold 10 int is like 500 gold. blademail is 2200 so you are getting 2250 gold of stats for 2200 gold. that's not exactly strong. or cost effective and 22 is not triple 12.
Compare the damage of blademail to crystalys. you spend 50 gold to have 8 less damage and armor + int instead of crit. That bad.
Phase boots have more damage and are much more useful for SB. Phase drums gives so much more for only 800 more gold.
if you want cheap damage items, buying phase boots is already better, two bracers gives 18 damage for half the cost of blademail. in addition to vastly better side stats.
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22 + 10 damage, since int gives 1 dmg per 1 point of intelligence. It is good dmg item for int hero.
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On August 15 2013 22:19 Naturedota wrote:
I am not talking about spirit breaker, just generally that blade mail is good item.
Drums - 12 dmg total bonus, 1750gold, its not far from blade mail cost wise, and blade mail has like triple the dmg.
Boots are good, but having them does not mean you cant have blade mail, you can also have crystallys. I usually get all three.
Of course there are better dmg items than blade mail but they cost thousands more gold.
blademail is generally a totally situational item. first you need the HP pool for it to even survive long enough to do any damage. then others have to focus you for it to do any damage. you not always play an axe where you can FORCE others to attack you.
taking crit without any attack speed buffing items first is pretty bad. let alone on a strength hero with not much agi gain, who just doesn't get attack speed without items.
also you are on TL where drums are considered one of the best items, especially on a hero like SB because more move speed = more damage.
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Crystallys damage alone is good reason to have it. It has always buffed my hero dps clearly, and cost is pretty low compared to other dmg items which cost thousands. Sometimes I even have two of tem since I just cant save money for the most expensive item.
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On August 15 2013 22:30 Naturedota wrote:
22 + 10 damage, since int gives 1 dmg per 1 point of intelligence. It is good dmg item for int hero.
Okay so on int heroes why not just buy null talisman and oblivion staff. thats 12 int + 18 damage, 3 str, 3 agi, 75% mana regen, 10 attack speed.
On August 15 2013 22:33 Naturedota wrote:
Crystallys damage alone is good reason to have it. It has always buffed my hero dps clearly, and cost is pretty low compared to other dmg items which cost thousands. Sometimes I even have two oftem since I just cant save money for the most expensive item.
you are confusing slot efficiency with cost efficiency. spending 2150 on 30 damage is bad. you can buy that in pure claws of attack for 1350. If you are having trouble affording items, go for cost efficiency.
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Actually drums aren't that amazing on SB because he has no use for the mana.
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