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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
August 15 2013 11:10 GMT
#71921
Blitz is coincidentally playing Zeus right now on his stream, and there's even a NP in the game: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Blitz
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Naturedota
Profile Joined August 2013
74 Posts
August 15 2013 11:11 GMT
#71922
isnt there range limit to ultimate? if not, seems unbelieveable
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
August 15 2013 11:14 GMT
#71923
On August 15 2013 20:11 Naturedota wrote:
isnt there range limit to ultimate? if not, seems unbelieveable

Nope, it's global.
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
August 15 2013 11:31 GMT
#71924
On August 15 2013 20:11 Naturedota wrote:
isnt there range limit to ultimate? if not, seems unbelieveable

Bro, plz.

You can't run from heaven!
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
August 15 2013 11:34 GMT
#71925
I'm on a 7 game losing spree. Pls help.
super gg
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
August 15 2013 11:36 GMT
#71926
On August 15 2013 20:34 cecek wrote:
I'm on a 7 game losing spree. Pls help.

Pick Spirit Breaker.

Ez rares.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
August 15 2013 11:36 GMT
#71927
On August 15 2013 20:00 Naturedota wrote:
Click on the other side of the minimap? What did I read?

Because of how NP ultimate bounces and it has many bounces, most of the time you should click the ultimate at the other side of the minimap and wait for it to bounce to your lane for maximum damage.

Yes it's not 100%,but it's pretty reliable.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Naturedota
Profile Joined August 2013
74 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 11:43:41
August 15 2013 11:41 GMT
#71928
So number of bounces is unlimited and no range limit for bounces? so if there is only one enemy at the far other side of the map, the spell can bounce from him to other side of the map to another enemy there?

I have noticed that Spirit breaker seems very powerful and gains levels very fast, but when I tried it I had no clue how to play that hero.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 15 2013 11:43 GMT
#71929
On August 15 2013 19:48 Naturedota wrote:
I started to play dota 2 few days ago, and i think its okay game. I have had some degree of succes, but also losses. I have totally no idea what people mean when they talk about "laning" and other terms like that. My favorite heroes currently are juggernaut and natures prophet, there were some others too but cant remember. Last night I tried night stalker because I heard it is good at getting kills, but I dont think quiet so, because its fairly easy to disengage from night stalker if you have any kind of retreating skills despite of night stalkers Void. Juggernaut seems pretty straightforward with his hard hitting abilities, so its easy to play. Nature prophet is nice if you get levels going and those trees just are fun to push with and you can help alot your team with getting opponents in that box. The "ultimate" skill for natures prophet is not that good because of low damage but I guess its not the point of the nature prophet.

The biggest issue right now for me with this game is, that there are like 90 heroes in total and I cannot possibly even remotely memorize all of them let alone their itemizations. For now I have just tried to play with common sense and get their respective stat items and get mana or dmg items depending of my need at the time.

Another issue is, that I find it very hard to find money to get boots because all of my income goes to replenish my mana and health potions or food eating items, if I dont get those my hero is useless because of no mana or no hp.

I have noticed that there are also some heroes are not really good or are extremely hard to put in actual use like Zeus, I tried him but this hero just seems to be dead weight. I may not know how to play him, but compared to juggernaut or natures prophet there is world of difference in their impactfullness. Zeus ultimate seems almoust overpowered because it can kill low hp enemies everywhere so i guess this hero must have been balanced around that skill.

Zeus is balanced around the fact he takes away 11% of the ennemy HP pool every 2 seconds and being squishy and slow.
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BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 11:46:36
August 15 2013 11:44 GMT
#71930
Wrath of Nature can only hit 16 targets. 18 with Aghanims Sceptre.
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 12:15:58
August 15 2013 12:10 GMT
#71931
NP ultimate is unlimited range. But limited targets

SB it's pretty simple. Go for a BKB-> Assault,thats your core right there.
Skill build, just go 1-1-4-1 at level 7, then max out Charge before aura.

Power Treads -> Urn -> MoM/SB -> BKB -> AC is a easy build.

Now there's routes to the BKB, you can choose to go MoM if you can get a lot of solo kills. Or you can go for a Shadowblade into a BKB.

After a BKB and a AC, feel free to go whatever else you need. A SB is pretty easy in that aspect.

NOTE:- Yes it's a simplified guide to SB for new players. I know that. The skill build is extremely debatable, but for a new player it will work fine. Afterall he did say he was a new player.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
August 15 2013 12:17 GMT
#71932
agha SB best SB.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Naturedota
Profile Joined August 2013
74 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 12:25:00
August 15 2013 12:24 GMT
#71933
What was MoM and SB?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
August 15 2013 12:25 GMT
#71934
On August 15 2013 21:24 Naturedota wrote:
What was MoM?


Mask of Madness.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Naturedota
Profile Joined August 2013
74 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 12:30:07
August 15 2013 12:29 GMT
#71935
Usually I have bought the armor which returns all damage taken, after bying crystallys sword. The armor just gives too good stats + dmg mirror is good.
Shai
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada806 Posts
August 15 2013 12:42 GMT
#71936
On August 15 2013 21:24 Naturedota wrote:
What was MoM and SB?


SB can be either Spirit Breaker, the hero, or Shadow Blade, the item.

Similarily confusing, SK can mean either Sand King, the hero, or Skeleton King, the hero.

Also to those who are new to the game bemoaning the strength/weakness of heroes, understand that at a higher skill level, those heroes do very different things than what you and those in your games are using them for.
Eagerly awaiting Techies.
Shadowpostin
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany798 Posts
August 15 2013 12:48 GMT
#71937
On August 15 2013 21:42 Shai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 21:24 Naturedota wrote:
What was MoM and SB?


SB can be either Spirit Breaker, the hero, or Shadow Blade, the item.

Similarily confusing, SK can mean either Sand King, the hero, or Skeleton King, the hero.

Also to those who are new to the game bemoaning the strength/weakness of heroes, understand that at a higher skill level, those heroes do very different things than what you and those in your games are using them for.

when someone says sb its most likely spirit breaker since everyone refers to shadow blade as lothars
allow me to demonstrate the skill of shaolin
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 15 2013 12:49 GMT
#71938
On August 15 2013 21:48 Shadowpostin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 21:42 Shai wrote:
On August 15 2013 21:24 Naturedota wrote:
What was MoM and SB?


SB can be either Spirit Breaker, the hero, or Shadow Blade, the item.

Similarily confusing, SK can mean either Sand King, the hero, or Skeleton King, the hero.

Also to those who are new to the game bemoaning the strength/weakness of heroes, understand that at a higher skill level, those heroes do very different things than what you and those in your games are using them for.

when someone says sb its most likely spirit breaker since everyone refers to shadow blade as lothars

not really
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Shadowpostin
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany798 Posts
August 15 2013 12:51 GMT
#71939
ok my bad
the popular name for shadow blade is lothars,at least here in EU
allow me to demonstrate the skill of shaolin
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17082 Posts
August 15 2013 12:55 GMT
#71940
On August 15 2013 21:49 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 21:48 Shadowpostin wrote:
On August 15 2013 21:42 Shai wrote:
On August 15 2013 21:24 Naturedota wrote:
What was MoM and SB?


SB can be either Spirit Breaker, the hero, or Shadow Blade, the item.

Similarily confusing, SK can mean either Sand King, the hero, or Skeleton King, the hero.

Also to those who are new to the game bemoaning the strength/weakness of heroes, understand that at a higher skill level, those heroes do very different things than what you and those in your games are using them for.

when someone says sb its most likely spirit breaker since everyone refers to shadow blade as lothars

not really


Most people do. I've found that people who didn't even play the original game call it lothar's because everyone else does <_<
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