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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 15 2013 09:06 GMT
#71901
I think you just need 5 people to enter any bigpoint battle, arent they the zotac of dota?
Ofc you'll probably lose in the first round. Isnt there also some irc channel for clan wars?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
August 15 2013 09:09 GMT
#71902
have they removed the player card drops?
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13086 Posts
August 15 2013 09:13 GMT
#71903
Vanguard is never a better option than mek in any situation whatsoever and you cant get mek at level 1 anyway with your 200 mana lol.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
August 15 2013 09:19 GMT
#71904
On August 15 2013 18:06 Erasme wrote:
I think you just need 5 people to enter any bigpoint battle, arent they the zotac of dota?
Ofc you'll probably lose in the first round. Isnt there also some irc channel for clan wars?


Yea, I've been lurking compdota on reddit but I don't know, I'm not amazing but 2000 hours should be enough to stop pubbing.
Autotroph
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom940 Posts
August 15 2013 09:22 GMT
#71905
On August 15 2013 12:22 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:
This isn't TL general, stop acting like you guys belong on reddit.


Exactly what I was thinking. Armchair mathematicians unintentionally trolling real ones.

About Viper: there's some games of Dendi playing tank viper ages ago, will try to find them.
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Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
August 15 2013 09:23 GMT
#71906
On August 15 2013 18:05 Esoterikk wrote:
What skill level would you need to be at before you can start to play more competitively, and please don't respond with "lol u not a pro" I mean just any level of competition that isn't pubs.

Pretty much anything above basic dota knowledge, but why would you?

There's way too much to learn from pubs before you can start learning competitive dota.
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 15 2013 09:30 GMT
#71907
My 100% objective Dota skill measure scale says

go find out in IHL.
WriterXiao8~~
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
August 15 2013 09:32 GMT
#71908
On August 15 2013 18:05 Esoterikk wrote:
What skill level would you need to be at before you can start to play more competitively, and please don't respond with "lol u not a pro" I mean just any level of competition that isn't pubs.

Since there are no real indicators of skill readily available, here goes:

You should know all the basics(what a hero does in general, have seen each item at least used in a game).
Uneven lanes(1v2, 1v3, 2v3) shouldn't be new to you. You should have run a successfull trilane at least once(otherwise you would need a jungler in almost every game)
It helps to know trends of the metagame.
That's all you need to start being competitive really.

If you play teammatchmaking with your irl friends, expect to be stomped though.
I have no idea what you're intending to do or what level of competition you mean by competitive. So take with a grain of salt.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
August 15 2013 09:36 GMT
#71909
I feel like I really need some kind of ladder to keep me motivated playing dota, tried dota2league, but after 30 games in a row not starting I wasn't convinced by it. Pubgames show me no progression at all, in addition to that the matchmaking is horrible at the moment, I only got stomps for my last 30 games except 1, going either side. Any tips on where to play?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 09:40:46
August 15 2013 09:40 GMT
#71910
nvm
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Shadowpostin
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany798 Posts
August 15 2013 09:46 GMT
#71911
I play dota to build rapiers,idk.
allow me to demonstrate the skill of shaolin
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
August 15 2013 09:46 GMT
#71912
Best way is to find 4 dudes to play with and scrim.
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
August 15 2013 09:58 GMT
#71913
I have a TI3 unusual courier yet for some reason it doesn't show the particle effect... Is this some sort of known bug or something?
Naturedota
Profile Joined August 2013
74 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 10:56:31
August 15 2013 10:48 GMT
#71914
I started to play dota 2 few days ago, and i think its okay game. I have had some degree of succes, but also losses. I have totally no idea what people mean when they talk about "laning" and other terms like that. My favorite heroes currently are juggernaut and natures prophet, there were some others too but cant remember. Last night I tried night stalker because I heard it is good at getting kills, but I dont think quiet so, because its fairly easy to disengage from night stalker if you have any kind of retreating skills despite of night stalkers Void. Juggernaut seems pretty straightforward with his hard hitting abilities, so its easy to play. Nature prophet is nice if you get levels going and those trees just are fun to push with and you can help alot your team with getting opponents in that box. The "ultimate" skill for natures prophet is not that good because of low damage but I guess its not the point of the nature prophet.

The biggest issue right now for me with this game is, that there are like 90 heroes in total and I cannot possibly even remotely memorize all of them let alone their itemizations. For now I have just tried to play with common sense and get their respective stat items and get mana or dmg items depending of my need at the time.

Another issue is, that I find it very hard to find money to get boots because all of my income goes to replenish my mana and health potions or food eating items, if I dont get those my hero is useless because of no mana or no hp.

I have noticed that there are also some heroes are not really good or are extremely hard to put in actual use like Zeus, I tried him but this hero just seems to be dead weight. I may not know how to play him, but compared to juggernaut or natures prophet there is world of difference in their impactfullness. Zeus ultimate seems almoust overpowered because it can kill low hp enemies everywhere so i guess this hero must have been balanced around that skill.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 15 2013 10:50 GMT
#71915
NIght stalker has his silence to stop people from using spells yo escape
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 10:58:11
August 15 2013 10:57 GMT
#71916
On August 15 2013 19:48 Naturedota wrote:
I started to play dota 2 few days ago, and i think its okay game. I have had some degree of succes, but also losses. I have totally no idea what people mean when they talk about "laning" and other terms like that. My favorite heroes currently are juggernaut and natures prophet, there were some others too but cant remember. Last night I tried night stalker because I heard it is good at getting kills, but I dont think quiet so, because its fairly easy to disengage from night stalker if you have any kind of retreating skills despite of night stalkers Void. Juggernaut seems pretty straightforward with his hard hitting abilities, so its easy to play. Nature prophet is nice if you get levels going and those trees just are fun to push with and you can help alot your team with getting opponents in that box. The "ultimate" skill for natures prophet is not that good because of low damage but I guess its not the point of the nature prophet.

The biggest issue right now for me with this game is, that there are like 90 heroes in total and I cannot possibly even remotely memorize all of them let alone their itemizations. For now I have just tried to play with common sense and get their respective stat items and get mana or dmg items depending of my need at the time.

I have noticed that there are also some heroes are not really good or are extremely hard to put in actual use like Zeus, I tried him but this hero just seems to be dead weight. I may not know how to play him, but compared to juggernaut or natures prophet there is world of difference in their impactfullness. Zeus ultimate seems almoust overpowered because it can kill low hp enemies everywhere so i guess this hero must have been balanced around that skill.

I would reserve any judgement of individual heroes until you have played the game a lot more. Nightstalker is amazing at chasing heroes down and is very hard to escape from, and while Zeus's ult is pretty scary, the hero is more focused around the insane burst damage that he outputs. With regard's to NP's ult, keep in mind that it does more damage after each bounce, so you don't want to aim it at the hero you want to damage; rather you want to click on the other side of the minimap so that by the time it reaches your fight and the hero you're trying to kill it is doing maximum damage.
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Naturedota
Profile Joined August 2013
74 Posts
August 15 2013 11:00 GMT
#71917
Click on the other side of the minimap? What did I read?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 11:05:58
August 15 2013 11:05 GMT
#71918
On August 15 2013 20:00 Naturedota wrote:
Click on the other side of the minimap? What did I read?

Nature's Prophet's ultimate can be casted by clicking on the minimap where you want the first bounce to go.

Same with his teleport.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 15 2013 11:06 GMT
#71919
On August 15 2013 20:00 Naturedota wrote:
Click on the other side of the minimap? What did I read?

target nature's wrath on the other side of the minimap from where you want to hit. it does more damage the longer it bounces around.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 11:12:27
August 15 2013 11:09 GMT
#71920
On August 15 2013 14:37 Daozzt wrote:
Vanguard's not horrible on Viper but you should only get it if you're dominating your lane and its before 10 minutes.

Uh if you're dominating that means you should NOT go vanguard, vanguard is an item you buy when you desperately need a defensive item, if you're dominating you have all the space in the world to grab your drums, phase boots and mek which are way better on viper anyway.

On August 15 2013 18:05 Daozzt wrote:
I do think vanguard is better than mek on Viper though unless no one else on your team is a mek carrier/able to farm one. Viper has like 200 mana and goes oom after an ult and 3 orbs. I don't think its reliable on him at all.

It's not at all worth it, vanguard is only an item you grab when behind. If you want HP a raw vit booster provides the same HP while drums boosts your mana.
Mek on viper is a very very good item for surviveability.
You don't grab vanguard if you're dominating.

Also viper has 200 mana at level 1, with wand and drums you have far far more than 200 at level 10 which was a level you were talking about.
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