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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 20:49:57
August 14 2013 20:49 GMT
#71781
Leaving out silencer with infinite stolen int, mana break actually probably wins. Give OD 6 sheep sticks and drain all his mana lol.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 20:51:28
August 14 2013 20:49 GMT
#71782
On August 15 2013 05:46 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 05:45 teddyoojo wrote:
On August 15 2013 05:35 Yoshi- wrote:
Refresher warlock with 2 fatal bonds on heroes that all have zero int(stolen by silencer), against an OD with with max int possible casting its ult on all of them

That should be highest damage possible.

pudge wins highest hp and highest dmg as both is infinite


No huskar wins highest damage as he can easily deal more than 100% of your hp.
But we excluded everything that could deal infinite.


In theory both are the same, infinite is still not higher than infinite.

In practice, it depends on wether the engine can handle bigger numbers for damage than it can for HP. Pudge will at least draw with Huskar.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8279 Posts
August 14 2013 20:50 GMT
#71783
On August 15 2013 05:45 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 05:35 Yoshi- wrote:
Refresher warlock with 2 fatal bonds on heroes that all have zero int(stolen by silencer), against an OD with with max int possible casting its ult on all of them

That should be highest damage possible.

pudge wins highest hp and highest dmg as both is infinite


Someone told me they managed to reach max flesh heaps in a mmr game that lasted over an hour, but stopped getting more strength after reaching 64
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
August 14 2013 20:51 GMT
#71784
What about Necrolyte ult on that 6712 hp Morph?
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 14 2013 20:52 GMT
#71785
Fatal bond is not damage, it's hp removal.
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
August 14 2013 20:53 GMT
#71786
On August 15 2013 05:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
Leaving out silencer with infinite stolen int, mana break actually probably wins. Give OD 6 sheep sticks and drain all his mana lol.

You can't steal infinite int, it's limited by how much int the enemies have.
I think it's bugged in dota 2(can probably steal int from items afaik)
Limited can't as infinite.
On August 15 2013 05:33 Mafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 05:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
Quick, how much damage can you achieve with a single ability cast?
As many debuffs as are achievable in a normal dota game are permitted, but no e-blade damage.
Note: casting the ability lots of times is fine, I'm just curious how much damage you can get from any specific cast of it.
I guess shadow poison release could do hypothetically infinite damage, so maybe that doesn't count either

My guess: Adaptive strike

E: Math: 24 base agi + 3x24 levels = 96. Then 10 stat points and 6 from morph makes 122. Then morphing your base strength (19 + 24x2 = 67 minus the last point is 66) makes 188. Then 40x6 from items (e-blades) = 240+188=428. You may also be able to morph the 6 str from the morph ability. End total: 434. Adaptive is 2x so 868 before debuffs. With decrep and orchid and veil the number is a lot higher lol.

So let's be a bit nitpicky, I can easily raise your examples with an aoe-ability, You didn't say the damage has to be dealt to a single target, right?

If we do that I think Earthshaker could take the cake. If we allow setup, then Earthshaker right after a vacuum cast.

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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 20:56:16
August 14 2013 20:56 GMT
#71787
On August 15 2013 05:49 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 05:46 Yoshi- wrote:
On August 15 2013 05:45 teddyoojo wrote:
On August 15 2013 05:35 Yoshi- wrote:
Refresher warlock with 2 fatal bonds on heroes that all have zero int(stolen by silencer), against an OD with with max int possible casting its ult on all of them

That should be highest damage possible.

pudge wins highest hp and highest dmg as both is infinite


No huskar wins highest damage as he can easily deal more than 100% of your hp.
But we excluded everything that could deal infinite.


In theory both are the same, infinite is still not higher than infinite.

In practice, it depends on wether the engine can handle bigger numbers for damage than it can for HP. Pudge will at least draw with Huskar.


Yea I would assume that at one point the the amount of damage will cap(or might even go back to zero), but if we assume that limitation didn't exists a pudge with x strength will always deal less damage than huskar who ulties the pudge with x strength.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 20:59:30
August 14 2013 20:56 GMT
#71788
On August 15 2013 05:51 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
What about Necrolyte ult on that 6712 hp Morph?

I think we have a winner.
With agha and Morph at 1 hp, it would be 6711*1.2= 8053 damage before amplification.
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
August 14 2013 21:03 GMT
#71789
Yea, necro actually deals most damage if the enemy is at the minimum health of 0.4.
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
August 14 2013 21:25 GMT
#71790
Doesn't Axe chop actually deal like 30000dmg if people are below the HP threshold?
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
August 14 2013 21:28 GMT
#71791
On August 15 2013 06:25 dismiss wrote:
Doesn't Axe chop actually deal like 30000dmg if people are below the HP threshold?

Yes. Removes all buffs on the target and deals a gazillion damage.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 14 2013 21:30 GMT
#71792
AFAIK thats only dota 1... I thought in dota 2 they could just make the target die...
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lightsentry
Profile Joined May 2011
413 Posts
August 14 2013 21:34 GMT
#71793
Is anyone getting a strangely large amount of captain's mode games lately? I swear I've got everything thumbs'd up but when I solo queue I end up with cm more than 60% of the time.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 14 2013 21:44 GMT
#71794
lol, MLG is streaming Infinite crisis on twitch under a show called Play a pro 1v1 DotA2. How shittier could a company get?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
August 14 2013 21:46 GMT
#71795
yo NB, why you remove me from your friends list
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 21:51:32
August 14 2013 21:51 GMT
#71796
On August 15 2013 06:44 NB wrote:
lol, MLG is streaming Infinite crisis on twitch under a show called Play a pro 1v1 DotA2. How shittier could a company get?

i went into the chat and asked if they'd update the stream. I didn't get a response and about 2 minutes later the stream just crashed and nobody said a word. I guess MLG don't give a shit about the stream to respond or update viewers when there are only 75.


This is what happens when you buy your way into 'esports' ala Infinity Crisis, etc.

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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 14 2013 22:36 GMT
#71797
On August 15 2013 05:46 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 05:45 teddyoojo wrote:
On August 15 2013 05:35 Yoshi- wrote:
Refresher warlock with 2 fatal bonds on heroes that all have zero int(stolen by silencer), against an OD with with max int possible casting its ult on all of them

That should be highest damage possible.

pudge wins highest hp and highest dmg as both is infinite


No huskar wins highest damage as he can easily deal more than 100% of your hp.
But we excluded everything that could deal infinite.

so u tell me huskar does more than infinite dmg?



what about a 4 bfury daedalus rapier sven on fatal bounded enemies who are all on 1 point
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 14 2013 22:36 GMT
#71798
On August 15 2013 06:46 ahswtini wrote:
yo NB, why you remove me from your friends list

i remove traders every now and then since i trade very often. sometime i do miss here and there, no intended
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
August 14 2013 22:38 GMT
#71799
On August 15 2013 07:36 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 06:46 ahswtini wrote:
yo NB, why you remove me from your friends list

i remove traders every now and then since i trade very often. sometime i do miss here and there, no intended

I guess I deserve it for changing names all the time
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
CustomKal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada749 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-14 23:17:31
August 14 2013 23:15 GMT
#71800
On August 15 2013 07:36 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2013 05:46 Yoshi- wrote:
On August 15 2013 05:45 teddyoojo wrote:
On August 15 2013 05:35 Yoshi- wrote:
Refresher warlock with 2 fatal bonds on heroes that all have zero int(stolen by silencer), against an OD with with max int possible casting its ult on all of them

That should be highest damage possible.

pudge wins highest hp and highest dmg as both is infinite


No huskar wins highest damage as he can easily deal more than 100% of your hp.
But we excluded everything that could deal infinite.

so u tell me huskar does more than infinite dmg?



what about a 4 bfury daedalus rapier sven on fatal bounded enemies who are all on 1 point


Believe it or not you can create numbers greater than infinity, since infinity is just a concept. Easiest example is infinity x 2.

Harder example is that a statement such as D is in the domain of all real numbers and E is in the domain of all natural numbers. Both are infinite, yet D > E because it takes into account real numbers (whole numbers, rational numbers, irrational numbers), and E only takes into account whole numbers. Thus for every two whole numbers there are infinite real numbers in between them. Making D infinity * infinity, and E only infinity (in this example that is).

Thus if pudge is doing infinity, and huskar is doing more than twice that amount, huskar is still doing more damage.
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