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eluv
United States1251 Posts
On August 15 2013 08:15 CustomKal wrote: Believe it or not you can create numbers greater than infinity, since infinity is just a concept. Easiest example is infinity x 2. Harder example is that a statement such as D is in the domain of all real numbers and E is in the domain of all natural numbers. Both are infinite, yet D > E because it takes into account real numbers (whole numbers, rational numbers, irrational numbers), and E only takes into account whole numbers. Thus for every two whole numbers there are infinite real numbers in between them. Making D infinity * infinity, and E only infinity (in this example that is). Thus if pudge is doing infinity, and huskar is doing more than twice that amount, huskar is still doing more damage. Just stop, please. You said about two correct things there - infinity is not a number, and there are more real numbers than natural numbers, even though both sets are infinite. Then right after talking about infinity not being a number, you start multiplying it by things. You also justify the idea that there are more real numbers than whole numbers by pointing out that there are infinite reals between every pair of whole numbers. While that's true, there are also infinite rationals between every pair of whole numbers, but those two sets (rationals and whole numbers) are the same cardinality - the same 'degree of infinity'. For that matter, there are infinite rationals between every pair of reals, and there are 'fewer' rationals than reals, so, yeah. /rant Regardless of how this debate works out, for me the answer is an agh's Lina Ult. The damage depending on outside factors like enemy health, or based on stat stealing, just feel a bit silly to me, and using a channel is just cheating. So my only real contribution is to remember to add the mask of madness debuff to the target. | ||
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FinestHour
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JeeJee
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Incze
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Especially with a battlefury against stacked opponents with max -armor and maybe orchid/sd ulti, too. | ||
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hmsrenown
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On August 15 2013 08:58 JeeJee wrote: All this large damage talk.. where is techies at?! One explosion of maximum number of agh remotes will give you 36,000 damage apparently. we didnt reach 3.2million so too bad for now ![]() | ||
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GentleDrill
United Kingdom672 Posts
Also some clarification on the whole infinity thing I guess. | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
On August 15 2013 09:21 GentleDrill wrote: A full duration level 4 Sandstorm channel would do 6400 damage. Also some clarification on the whole infinity thing I guess. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elvOZm0d4H0 ahaha I was thinking of linking that same video. | ||
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Mithhaike
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GentleDrill
United Kingdom672 Posts
On August 15 2013 10:12 Mithhaike wrote: A single cast of damage spell, the highest MUST go to Axe. That spell alone does what, 99999 dmg or something? Sources differ on how the spell behaves in Dota 2. According to PlayDota in Dota 1 the killing blow is 100 million physical damage. Liquipedia says the same thing. However, Dota 2 Wiki says it does "exactly the target's remaining health in unmitigable damage". It's been discussed in this thread a bit but nobody seems to be able to state conclusively how it works in Dota 2 (not that it actually matters...) Also, Ice Blast's shatter according to PlayDota apparently also does 100 million physical damage, and Dota 2 Wiki says the same. But again I don't know if that's true. | ||
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icystorage
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rabidch
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On August 15 2013 10:27 icystorage wrote: hmm so Pudge in dota 1 can tank culling blade? awesome. you have to be under the threshold though, meaning you cant tank it (at least off the top of my head) but you can tank ice blast | ||
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GentleDrill
United Kingdom672 Posts
On August 15 2013 10:28 rabidch wrote: you have to be under the threshold though, meaning you cant tank it (at least off the top of my head) but you can tank ice blast But can the Warcraft 3 engine (or, hell, the Dota 2 engine) even handle the billion-odd HP you'd need for that? ![]() | ||
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Mithhaike
Singapore2759 Posts
On August 15 2013 10:22 GentleDrill wrote: Sources differ on how the spell behaves in Dota 2. According to PlayDota in Dota 1 the killing blow is 100 million physical damage. Liquipedia says the same thing. However, Dota 2 Wiki says it does "exactly the target's remaining health in unmitigable damage". It's been discussed in this thread a bit but nobody seems to be able to state conclusively how it works in Dota 2 (not that it actually matters...) Also, Ice Blast's shatter according to PlayDota apparently also does 100 million physical damage, and Dota 2 Wiki says the same. But again I don't know if that's true. Thing is everything listed can be tanked by a dazzle shadow grave, except Culling Blade. | ||
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CustomKal
Canada749 Posts
On August 15 2013 08:33 eluv wrote: Just stop, please. You said about two correct things there - infinity is not a number, and there are more real numbers than natural numbers, even though both sets are infinite. Then right after talking about infinity not being a number, you start multiplying it by things. You also justify the idea that there are more real numbers than whole numbers by pointing out that there are infinite reals between every pair of whole numbers. While that's true, there are also infinite rationals between every pair of whole numbers, but those two sets (rationals and whole numbers) are the same cardinality - the same 'degree of infinity'. For that matter, there are infinite rationals between every pair of reals, and there are 'fewer' rationals than reals, so, yeah. /rant Regardless of how this debate works out, for me the answer is an agh's Lina Ult. The damage depending on outside factors like enemy health, or based on stat stealing, just feel a bit silly to me, and using a channel is just cheating. So my only real contribution is to remember to add the mask of madness debuff to the target. I was explaining that two different sets that are "infinite", one is still larger. Sorry its not 100% mathematically correct, but not everyone can understand unless you explain it this way. The point i was making that regardless of them both being infinite, one was still greater. | ||
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