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LSF
Profile Joined April 2012
469 Posts
July 15 2013 21:30 GMT
#66621
How come I don't find the game Dendi is streaming right now in client? He should be somewhere on the first pages, shouldn't he?

Speaking of which, why is it not possible to filter live games by player name when I can do so on recent games?
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 21:35:35
July 15 2013 21:33 GMT
#66622
On July 16 2013 06:28 TheYango wrote:
This is starting to get awfully petty and stupid, seeing as there's not a place where this is well-tabulated. If everyone is just going to be anecdotally one-upping each other, I'd say we should move on.

yeah my yet to see them break 30-33k on personal streams was in response to a guy who said "lol pros regularly get 2-5x what dendi gets in his peak viewers" which is just stupidly false, and then a bunch of people jump in on comments and bring them out of context to assert their own point, when the original point was: dota upon release saw a 50% surge in viewership on tiwtch and 80% surge in popular streamers viewer counts. which is exciting because oin comparison to lol which is a streamer culture, we are hitting similar numbers on popular streams and have hit the halfway point in total viewers.
Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
July 15 2013 21:37 GMT
#66623
On July 16 2013 06:30 LSF wrote:
How come I don't find the game Dendi is streaming right now in client? He should be somewhere on the first pages, shouldn't he?

Speaking of which, why is it not possible to filter live games by player name when I can do so on recent games?


There's a few minute delay on games in the client to prevent people from "cheating" in that sense. Streams however are generally more "live". You wouldn't be able to find the game until a bit after it starts.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
July 15 2013 21:37 GMT
#66624
On July 16 2013 06:37 Xxazn4lyfe51xX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 06:30 LSF wrote:
How come I don't find the game Dendi is streaming right now in client? He should be somewhere on the first pages, shouldn't he?

Speaking of which, why is it not possible to filter live games by player name when I can do so on recent games?


There's a few minute delay on games in the client to prevent people from "cheating" in that sense. Streams however are generally more "live". You wouldn't be able to find the game until a bit after it starts.

It should be 2 minutes on matchmaking games.
LSF
Profile Joined April 2012
469 Posts
July 15 2013 21:45 GMT
#66625
Well, he's been playing a game as Puck for 6 minutes now and it doesnt show up on the first 10 pages in client.
So it's either a private game (does this even exist in dota?) or he's playing with a lot of people that drag the MMR way down.

And if they do delay the matches there is really no reason not to be able to search for a player. Not sure why Valve does this...
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 15 2013 21:48 GMT
#66626
If there is still the option try and search in community>>teams>>na'vi>>dendi>>>watch game

however I am not so sure if that is possible and whether he is on that account.
WriterXiao8~~
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 21:50:18
July 15 2013 21:48 GMT
#66627
On July 16 2013 06:45 LSF wrote:
Well, he's been playing a game as Puck for 6 minutes now and it doesnt show up on the first 10 pages in client.
So it's either a private game (does this even exist in dota?) or he's playing with a lot of people that drag the MMR way down.

And if they do delay the matches there is really no reason not to be able to search for a player. Not sure why Valve does this...

Go to teams, find Navi, click on Dendi, Watch game. GG.

There are private games, but this is not one of them.

On July 16 2013 06:48 Kipsate wrote:
If there is still the option try and search in community>>teams>>na'vi>>dendi>>>watch game

however I am not so sure if that is possible and whether he is on that account.


It does work, just tested it.

He is also on the first page right now.
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
July 15 2013 21:50 GMT
#66628
On July 16 2013 06:48 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 06:45 LSF wrote:
Well, he's been playing a game as Puck for 6 minutes now and it doesnt show up on the first 10 pages in client.
So it's either a private game (does this even exist in dota?) or he's playing with a lot of people that drag the MMR way down.

And if they do delay the matches there is really no reason not to be able to search for a player. Not sure why Valve does this...

Go to teams, find Navi, click on Dendi, Watch game. GG.

There are private games, but this is not one of them.

Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 06:48 Kipsate wrote:
If there is still the option try and search in community>>teams>>na'vi>>dendi>>>watch game

however I am not so sure if that is possible and whether he is on that account.


It does work, just tested it.


This also works wonderfully for smaller tournaments that are not streamed (and what I did initially to watch D2L season 3 before the ticket came out).
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
LSF
Profile Joined April 2012
469 Posts
July 15 2013 21:51 GMT
#66629
On July 16 2013 06:48 Kipsate wrote:
If there is still the option try and search in community>>teams>>na'vi>>dendi>>>watch game

however I am not so sure if that is possible and whether he is on that account.


I'm just confused why Valve are making it so hard to find players you are interesting in game when they have this great spectator mode already. If the games are delayed by minutes then stream-cheating shouldn't be a concern.
Just doesn't make sense to me if I look at it from their perspective.
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
July 15 2013 21:54 GMT
#66630
On July 16 2013 06:51 LSF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 06:48 Kipsate wrote:
If there is still the option try and search in community>>teams>>na'vi>>dendi>>>watch game

however I am not so sure if that is possible and whether he is on that account.


I'm just confused why Valve are making it so hard to find players you are interesting in game when they have this great spectator mode already. If the games are delayed by minutes then stream-cheating shouldn't be a concern.
Just doesn't make sense to me if I look at it from their perspective.

How are they hard to find? Just look their team up then click on the player...
LSF
Profile Joined April 2012
469 Posts
July 15 2013 21:54 GMT
#66631
Ok found it this way. Thanks guys. Still think there is room for improvement there though.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
July 15 2013 21:55 GMT
#66632
is chat manfunctioning for others? I can't see anyone
The Bomber boy
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 15 2013 21:56 GMT
#66633
On July 16 2013 06:54 SilverStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 06:51 LSF wrote:
On July 16 2013 06:48 Kipsate wrote:
If there is still the option try and search in community>>teams>>na'vi>>dendi>>>watch game

however I am not so sure if that is possible and whether he is on that account.


I'm just confused why Valve are making it so hard to find players you are interesting in game when they have this great spectator mode already. If the games are delayed by minutes then stream-cheating shouldn't be a concern.
Just doesn't make sense to me if I look at it from their perspective.

How are they hard to find? Just look their team up then click on the player...

Because its rather roundabout rather then just have it be an option where someone can type his steam name in a box and get his game?
WriterXiao8~~
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
July 15 2013 22:00 GMT
#66634
On July 16 2013 06:56 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 06:54 SilverStar wrote:
On July 16 2013 06:51 LSF wrote:
On July 16 2013 06:48 Kipsate wrote:
If there is still the option try and search in community>>teams>>na'vi>>dendi>>>watch game

however I am not so sure if that is possible and whether he is on that account.


I'm just confused why Valve are making it so hard to find players you are interesting in game when they have this great spectator mode already. If the games are delayed by minutes then stream-cheating shouldn't be a concern.
Just doesn't make sense to me if I look at it from their perspective.

How are they hard to find? Just look their team up then click on the player...

Because its rather roundabout rather then just have it be an option where someone can type his steam name in a box and get his game?


The benefit though is that considering how often some pros change their display name you can almost always count on them being on the account under the their team in the community page. Even with search it wouldn't be foolproof.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
LSF
Profile Joined April 2012
469 Posts
July 15 2013 22:01 GMT
#66635
On July 16 2013 06:54 SilverStar wrote:

How are they hard to find? Just look their team up then click on the player...


The way stuff works today... I would just like to go to live games and type in part of his name in a search box and find him like google auto-fill. This should be a piece of cake to implement.

And don't get me wrong, this is not bitching. I like DOTA a lot and I just think this is something that could be improved to attract more people.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 15 2013 22:02 GMT
#66636
Even if they don't change their name, having the same name for a long time invariably results in a large number of fakes who copy their name. When looking for a pro player, searching for them by team is always more reliable anyway.
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hyshes
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium428 Posts
July 15 2013 22:06 GMT
#66637
On July 16 2013 06:55 Wintex wrote:
is chat manfunctioning for others? I can't see anyone


same problem here..
How does liquid slide? Liquid horns Hero after the synonym. How can Hero return beside the driver? The moving feat expenses the mortal. Will Hero pause?
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 22:14:48
July 15 2013 22:06 GMT
#66638
Stuff like that is easily fixed by having a ''verified'' checkbox just like on Twitter though, a ''verified'' Dendi account is still possible for atleast pro players. If you have the verified on top with a marker that says verified then its a lot easier for people to just typ it in a box and get his name.

Also Dendi has some relaxing music.
On July 16 2013 07:00 LeLoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 06:56 Kipsate wrote:
On July 16 2013 06:54 SilverStar wrote:
On July 16 2013 06:51 LSF wrote:
On July 16 2013 06:48 Kipsate wrote:
If there is still the option try and search in community>>teams>>na'vi>>dendi>>>watch game

however I am not so sure if that is possible and whether he is on that account.


I'm just confused why Valve are making it so hard to find players you are interesting in game when they have this great spectator mode already. If the games are delayed by minutes then stream-cheating shouldn't be a concern.
Just doesn't make sense to me if I look at it from their perspective.

How are they hard to find? Just look their team up then click on the player...

Because its rather roundabout rather then just have it be an option where someone can type his steam name in a box and get his game?


The benefit though is that considering how often some pros change their display name you can almost always count on them being on the account under the their team in the community page. Even with search it wouldn't be foolproof.


With a verified account you can even have it so that when he changes his steam name your search results will still yield the same name.

Obviously this won't work if he goes onto different accounts but that is the same when you go to the community tab and into teams.
WriterXiao8~~
sc_a.M
Profile Joined April 2013
420 Posts
July 15 2013 22:49 GMT
#66639
On July 16 2013 06:12 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 06:10 TheYango wrote:
On July 16 2013 06:05 superstartran wrote:
Yeah but it's pretty silly to argue that they don't have more viewers than Dendi

Who said they did?

Jalstar's original post was:
On July 16 2013 05:19 jalstar wrote:
LoL doesn't have a Dendi, even SC2 never had someone who had Dendi's levels of simultaneous skill and popularity. He's really one of a kind in esports and probably my favorite stream to watch, even though I'm much less familiar with DotA than LoL and Sc2.

Which says the same thing I said.

Show nested quote +
On July 16 2013 05:47 PrinceXizor wrote:
On July 16 2013 05:26 ch33psh33p wrote:
On July 16 2013 05:19 jalstar wrote:
LoL doesn't have a Dendi, even SC2 never had someone who had Dendi's levels of simultaneous skill and popularity. He's really one of a kind in esports and probably my favorite stream to watch, even though I'm much less familiar with DotA than LoL and Sc2.


Wat.

I dislike LoL, but to say they don't have personalities as big as Dendi is downright wrong.

The most popular LoL streamers pull 2 to 5 times the amount of viewers Dendi can hit as his peak.

i have yet to see a lol streamer with over 30-33k ever. so they can't even pull 2x dendi.

dota 2 post release is getting really good stream numbers and thats a positive. half of the total people watching lol right now are watching dota 2, and with how massive a stream culture lol has thats very exciting to see the numbers reflected for dota 2.


He technically said they can't reach 2x Dendi, but also that they never get over 30k. Or that he just haven't seen it because he doesn't watch it, which would be incredibly silly.

Didn't a LoL streamer reach a ridiculous number once because he was taking part of a contest or something?


I have seen Hotshotgg with more than 40k I think around 45k. He streamed just for like 2houres though. Chilled guy, the whole chat was begging him to play adds and become a millionare, was hillarious.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
July 15 2013 22:54 GMT
#66640
Major LAN Achievements 2011:
1st - Electronic Sports World Cup (Paris, France) (2011)
1st - Dota 2 The International (Cologne, Germany) (2011) - $1,000,000
1st - Techlabs Cup (2011)
1st - ASUS Open Spring (2011)
1st - ASUS Open Summer (2011)
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dendi stream could use some update in description?
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