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On July 15 2013 02:51 TheYango wrote:
Man, I just filled out my picks for the solo tournament at TI3, and it really pisses me off that I can only pick 2nd/3rd position players, when a lot of carry players are more practiced/studied tournament 1v1 players than the mid/off-laners on their teams.
If FY's performance in the Redbull ECL 1v1 is anything to go by, it's that even a support player can be a very practiced tournament 1v1 solo player.
Black is in the pool as well, isn't he? And some teams have 3 players if I remember correctly. So they're not just basing it off which lane they're usually in..that said I have no idea what exactly they are basing it on.
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No Black isn't in the pool, just checked
But the selections are pretty arbitrary indeed. It's not like they only picked players who actually play the solo mid role frequently, since players like YYF, iceiceice are there. Zhou goes mid much more often than YYF I think. And there's 3 Zenith players and only Super from DK..
Anyway, at least I can pick both TC and Korok (though Bulba sometimes plays mid as well)
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On July 15 2013 04:10 AwfuL_ wrote:No Black isn't in the pool, just checked But the selections are pretty arbitrary indeed. It's not like they only picked players who actually play the solo mid role frequently, since players like YYF, iceiceice are there. Zhou goes mid much more often than YYF I think. And there's 3 Zenith players and only Super from DK.. Anyway, at least I can pick TC 
Yes he is, I just checked again.
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On July 15 2013 04:14 ch33psh33p wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 04:10 AwfuL_ wrote:No Black isn't in the pool, just checked But the selections are pretty arbitrary indeed. It's not like they only picked players who actually play the solo mid role frequently, since players like YYF, iceiceice are there. Zhou goes mid much more often than YYF I think. And there's 3 Zenith players and only Super from DK.. Anyway, at least I can pick TC Yes he is, I just checked again.
Are we talking about the same thing  ?
I'm looking at the 'SOLO CHAMPIONSHIP' page and the only Mouz player is FATA-
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On July 15 2013 04:15 AwfuL_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 04:14 ch33psh33p wrote:On July 15 2013 04:10 AwfuL_ wrote:No Black isn't in the pool, just checked But the selections are pretty arbitrary indeed. It's not like they only picked players who actually play the solo mid role frequently, since players like YYF, iceiceice are there. Zhou goes mid much more often than YYF I think. And there's 3 Zenith players and only Super from DK.. Anyway, at least I can pick TC Yes he is, I just checked again. Are we talking about the same thing ? I'm looking at the 'SOLO CHAMPIONSHIP' page and the only Mouz player is FATA-
You're right, I can't find him now either. I really thought I saw him earlier, because I was thinking to myself "Why would they add him to the 1v1 tourney?"..Guess I must be seeing things. Still, Zenith have 3 players in that pool.
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I recently had a thread locked because I suggested that LoL is the game with the higher skill cap because it features skill shots and LoL doesn't.
Then I madea thread with an OP about as moderate and unassuming as posts get. And it was locked before hardly a minute had gone by.
Why the need to censor? Afraid of the truth? So much for the idea that the DotA2 community is more mature than that of LoL.
User was warned for this post
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I THOUGHT THIS WAS 'MURICA
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Also it's a fucking inflammatory topic that is pointless to discuss, because it's entirely subjective.
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yeah, im pretty sure there is something of an unwritten policy of no dota2 v lol flame inducing threads, why are you looking to bring this BS here with your passive-agressive flamebait after you got two threads locked for that reason?
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On July 15 2013 04:53 GreenGringo wrote:I recently had a thread locked because I suggested that LoL is the game with the higher skill cap because it features skill shots and LoL doesn't. Then I made a thread with an OP about as moderate and unassuming as posts get. And it was locked before hardly a minute had gone by. Why the need to censor? Afraid of the truth? So much for the idea that the DotA2 community is more mature than that of LoL.
VS threads generally are one way tickets to stupid discussions that leads absolutely nowhere. If you want to play LoL, go play lol. I'm certain there are other people on this forum who thinks the same. But in general this is a Dota supporting forum, so you wont find an abundance of people willing to even discuss the topic (dota players, at least those who come from wc3 dota, hates LoL. And for good reasons). it would be like going into a "Toyota sports car owners" forum and post the thread "Toyota vs Chevrolet"
No, we're not afraid of the truth. We already know it. Your truth might be different. But don't try to Jehovah Witness us into believing yours. We don't care.
edit: Just to be absolutely 100% clear. I don't hate Jehovah witness or any particular religion at all. They're just incredibly annoying with their door to door "have you read this book of jesus?" policy.
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On July 15 2013 04:54 kollin wrote:
I THOUGHT THIS WAS 'MURICA No, I'm not some extremist libertarian or anything of the sort .It's simply true that knee-jerk censorship is often a sign of being afraid of the truth.
If you don't understand that, then you aren't familiar with the history of religion and many other things, and I suggest you inform yourself.
On July 15 2013 04:55 kollin wrote:
Also it's a fucking inflammatory topic that is pointless to discuss, because it's entirely subjective. Oh, it's "fucking" inflammatory, is it? You mean like using the word "fucking" for no reason?
It was inflammatory only if you assume that people lack the maturity to disagree without flaming. Maybe in your case that's true, but you shouldn't generalize to other people.
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cuz pplz needz to knowz that Leaguez haz amazing skill shotz.
Hur hurrr
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Mature people or not, we've discussed the same topic many times before (Here as well) and we really don't need to discuss it anymore.
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On July 15 2013 05:01 GreenGringo wrote:No, I'm not some extremist libertarian or anything of the sort .It's simply true that knee-jerk censorship is often a sign of being afraid of the truth. If you don't understand that, then you aren't familiar with the history of religion and many other things, and I suggest you inform yourself. Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 04:55 kollin wrote:
Also it's a fucking inflammatory topic that is pointless to discuss, because it's entirely subjective. Oh, it's "fucking" inflammatory, is it? You mean like using the word "fucking" for no reason? It was inflammatory only if you assume that people lack the maturity to disagree without flaming. Maybe in your case that's true, but you shouldn't generalize to other people.
It's clear that you do lack a great deal of maturity, as you assume TL's 'censorship' of your topic is due to them being afraid of the truth. You then compare the mods to religious extremists. If you bothered to do even a tiny iota of research, you'd see this topic has been discussed to death and no actual conclusion has reached. If you have any more complaints, please create a topic here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=7
EDIT: Did you just say that someone using the word fucking is inflammatory to you. Wat.
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On July 15 2013 05:00 Excludos wrote:
VS threads generally are one way tickets to stupid discussions that leads absolutely nowhere. If you want to play LoL, go play lol. I'm certain there are other people on this forum who thinks the same. . I generally agree with this point. However:
(1) I think you'll find that Versus threads aren't usually banned on this forum.
(2) You're wrong that it would lead nowhere. I find the conversation interesting. I want to know whether DotA2 has potential to become a sport like football and basketball and tennis. LoL certainly does because of the presence of skill shots. I'm less certain in the case of DotA2, which primarily seems to be about strategy. But from what I've witnessed, the community isn't mature enough to even discuss whether DotA2 is primarily about strategy.
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On July 15 2013 05:06 GreenGringo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 05:00 Excludos wrote:
VS threads generally are one way tickets to stupid discussions that leads absolutely nowhere. If you want to play LoL, go play lol. I'm certain there are other people on this forum who thinks the same. . I generally agree with this point. However: (1) I think you'll find that Versus threads aren't usually banned on this forum. (2) You're wrong that it would lead nowhere. I find the conversation interesting. I want to know whether DotA2 has potential to become a sport like football and basketball and tennis. LoL certainly does because of the presence of skill shots. I'm less certain in the case of DotA2, which primarily seems to be about strategy. But from what I've witnessed, the community isn't mature enough to even discuss whether DotA2 is primarily about strategy.
(1) Yes they are do you even read this forum.
(2)Is chess a sport?
Now please direct your queries to website feedback.
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On July 15 2013 05:06 GreenGringo wrote:I want to know whether DotA2 has potential to become a sport like football and basketball and tennis. LoL certainly does because of the presence of skill shots.
I'm curious why you believe this to be the case, given that "skillshots" in a game like LoL are much more akin to mindgames in something like Poker (seeing as it's essentially just bluffing/mindgames with your target about which way he's going to dodge rather than a task of physical precision) rather than feats of physical ability seen in sports. The actual skill of aiming and firing a skillshot is actually extraordinarily low in most cases. The real difficulty comes entirely from the bluffing/mindgame aspect.
On July 15 2013 05:06 GreenGringo wrote:
I'm less certain in the case of DotA2, which primarily seems to be about strategy. But from what I've witnessed, the community isn't mature enough to even discuss whether DotA2 is primarily about strategy.
I don't think anyone has disputed that DotA is primarily, if not exclusively, a game of strategy.
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On July 15 2013 05:03 Grettin wrote:
Mature people or not, we've discussed the same topic many times before (Here as well) and we really don't need to discuss it anymore. A lot of condescension, but guess what? I already made a thread before that thread. It generated two pages of posts. I evaluated the answers and felt that most of them were immature and superficial, and many of them failed to grasp the point of my post and distinguish between skill and knowledge.
That is why I made a knew thread. Because I wasn't satisfied with the community's understanding of the issue or even of the question I raised.
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On July 15 2013 05:10 GreenGringo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 05:03 Grettin wrote:
Mature people or not, we've discussed the same topic many times before (Here as well) and we really don't need to discuss it anymore. A lot of condescension, but guess what? I already made a thread before that thread. It generated two pages of posts. I evaluated the answers and felt that most of them were immature and superficial, and many of them failed to grasp the point of my post and distinguish between skill and knowledge.
'I'm too goddamn clever for everyone here.'
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wow that's some serious bait.
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