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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 07:54:12
July 14 2013 07:51 GMT
#66421
On July 14 2013 16:06 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 15:12 r.Evo wrote:
On July 14 2013 11:27 TheYango wrote:
On July 14 2013 10:30 NB wrote:
edit: i wonder if they fixed the enemy benefit from abadon passive bug... kinda annoying when everytime you try to deny a creep, enemy get bonus movespeed and attackspeed.

This isn't actually a bug. As far as I'm aware it works like this in DotA 1 as well.

EDIT: Yeah, it's not a bug. Dev thread discussing this with proof in both screenshot and trigger code form -- http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=97209&highlight=abaddon allies

Why does the skill explanation call it "enemy unit" then? Sounds confusing as hell to me ;;

Because Icefrog is good at tooltips.

The PlayDotA description actually correctly lists "Any Unit" as a valid target for the skill.

EDIT: A very large number of the DotA 2 parity bugs are actually because Icefrog's tooltips suck. For example, the old bug where PL's Lance was missing the attack speed debuff--apparently IF thought "cripples" was enough to specify that the skill slows both MS and AS.

lance slows attack speed?
lol i never realized because of the tooltip. Even the liquipedia one just says "movement slow"
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 08:04:58
July 14 2013 07:58 GMT
#66422
I don't remember if they fixed it, I just know it was reported.

EDIT: Mid + Off-lane is actually quite good up to the point where people start playing trilanes consistently. Having game control from a 1v3 is obviously hard, but being able to win a 1v2 actually does a tremendous amount for you and your team (because you set two people on the enemy team behind)--and a large percentage of 1v2s are winnable simply because of how often people like to pick greedy carries that are weak in lane. For example if you pick something like Weaver, DS, or Broodmother into a shitty lane like AM+Omni or something, you can get solo lane farm for yourself and crush 2 of the enemy players out of the game.
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Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
July 14 2013 08:04 GMT
#66423
In other news playing Naix (as radiant) and whenever I infest a radiant creep it gives me no health. Anyone else experiencing this bug?
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 14 2013 08:05 GMT
#66424
On July 14 2013 17:04 Denzil wrote:
In other news playing Naix (as radiant) and whenever I infest a radiant creep it gives me no health. Anyone else experiencing this bug?

It's not a bug. You've never gotten health from infesting an allied creep. I don't know why you thought you did before.
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Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 08:12:13
July 14 2013 08:08 GMT
#66425
On July 14 2013 17:05 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 17:04 Denzil wrote:
In other news playing Naix (as radiant) and whenever I infest a radiant creep it gives me no health. Anyone else experiencing this bug?

It's not a bug. You've never gotten health from infesting an allied creep. I don't know why you thought you did before.


huh, never knew that

reading what the ability does it never specifies allied or enemy on the return of health
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
July 14 2013 08:09 GMT
#66426
How to deal with abaddon..The guy essentially cannot be solo killed and his aphotic shield doesn't seem to have a cd in fights..
Abaddon is making pubs not fun again
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
July 14 2013 08:18 GMT
#66427
On July 14 2013 16:58 TheYango wrote:
I don't remember if they fixed it, I just know it was reported.

EDIT: Mid + Off-lane is actually quite good up to the point where people start playing trilanes consistently. Having game control from a 1v3 is obviously hard, but being able to win a 1v2 actually does a tremendous amount for you and your team (because you set two people on the enemy team behind)--and a large percentage of 1v2s are winnable simply because of how often people like to pick greedy carries that are weak in lane. For example if you pick something like Weaver, DS, or Broodmother into a shitty lane like AM+Omni or something, you can get solo lane farm for yourself and crush 2 of the enemy players out of the game.

Tranquil am can even solo ds, let alone with a support. The ds will definitely get big, but a decent am will get his farm (even if he misses some the first 2 minutes).
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 08:31:48
July 14 2013 08:27 GMT
#66428
The AM typically has to get pooled (or random gold I guess) to have the regen to make it to Tranquils comfortably, and at the level where an AM can play with that level of proficiency, you're generally past the point where I mentioned that trilanes are common anyway.

Besides, you're intentionally choosing to dodge my specific point. I didn't mean to suggest DS vs AM+Omni specifically, only that Weaver, DS and Brood are laners that can win 1v2s, and AM+Omni is a weak duo that can be won by a strong 1v2 if chosen correctly (even if one of those particular 1v2 heroes mahy not be good at it). You're just arguing with me for the sake of arguing.
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igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
July 14 2013 09:20 GMT
#66429
I'm actually more interested with how teams have adapted to 6.78 than the original point, and that centers around dark seer (starting out as second team first ban/first pick material), to teams realizing heroes like antimage can solo vs ds and clock and still be able to offensive trilane. I think that's very, very interesting.

But to help out, some additional 6.78 dominant solo offlaners, timbersaw, slark (although slark vs antimage specifically is a tossup). And ld.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
July 14 2013 09:40 GMT
#66430
So i just realised, Rubick's spellsteal isn't actually a spell steal.

It's Spell copyright infringement, since the original owner still has his spell :x
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 14 2013 09:45 GMT
#66431
On July 14 2013 18:40 Kaniol wrote:
So i just realised, Rubick's spellsteal isn't actually a spell steal.

It's Spell copyright infringement, since the original owner still has his spell :x

spell download?
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
July 14 2013 09:46 GMT
#66432
He's a pirate, he does steal he just copies
In the woods, there lurks..
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 14 2013 09:49 GMT
#66433
but you cant download a car
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 14 2013 09:54 GMT
#66434
On July 14 2013 18:49 icystorage wrote:
but you cant download a car

rubick can download a boat. does that count?
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 14 2013 09:57 GMT
#66435
well played good sir
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
elt
Profile Joined July 2010
Thailand1092 Posts
July 14 2013 10:14 GMT
#66436
On July 14 2013 17:08 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 17:05 TheYango wrote:
On July 14 2013 17:04 Denzil wrote:
In other news playing Naix (as radiant) and whenever I infest a radiant creep it gives me no health. Anyone else experiencing this bug?

It's not a bug. You've never gotten health from infesting an allied creep. I don't know why you thought you did before.


huh, never knew that

reading what the ability does it never specifies allied or enemy on the return of health


It was fixed during the June 14th patch. I found that out the hard way infesting an allied creep, coming out with exactly the same hp and getting Impaled by Nyx immediately -.-
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 14 2013 10:25 GMT
#66437
On July 14 2013 18:54 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2013 18:49 icystorage wrote:
but you cant download a car

rubick can download a boat. does that count?

Rubick is the role model of the internet.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
July 14 2013 10:58 GMT
#66438
So Abaddon is the best fountain diver in the game...
Dodge arrows
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-14 11:17:09
July 14 2013 11:14 GMT
#66439
That would be a totally broken but awesome change to Rubick Aghanim

Rubick spellsteal with Aghs = opponent can't use the spell for a certain period of time ( doesn't necessarily need to be as long as spellsteal duration) or until Rubick dies.
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
July 14 2013 12:13 GMT
#66440
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