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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On July 08 2013 23:10 tosadalis wrote: I seriously cannot understand the pleasure of grinding games out and not seeing you reach any sort of ''hights' Yeah what crazy people playing dota because it's fun! I literally have no motivation to play dota outside of "It's fun" | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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tosadalis
United Kingdom119 Posts
On July 08 2013 23:12 Mataza wrote: Oh, I can solve that one. 1. There is a threshold between leagues. "I'm high caesium league, your low caesium league" 2. One has changed leagues once. "I may be crappium league like you, but 2 months ago I was fantastium league" 3. Personal delusion. "I see all these idiots in dirt league and I clearly belong into the better royal league. I just have bad luck with the system" 1. I already suggested having the option to hide your league. 2. Does it really matter what were you? You're playing with people in your league/mmr brackets. 3. So we now care about delusional people? And plus that notion already exists between a lot of players. There is no league and you clearly see people talking shit anyway regarding how are they better. In fact, if there were leagues you would fix their delusional bullshit by having an obvious ranking where the person is in. You couldn't say I belong in gm if you were in gold, nobody sane with any amount of common sense would do that. Leagues would make those people shut the fuck up. | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On July 08 2013 23:17 Qbek wrote: Here's the major problem with gamers nowadays. They want to have some meta progression on top of the game. Having played 4 years on b.net and garena just for fun, i have only pity for people that can't enjoy the game coz they don't see "progress" well if you play a lot and improve your skill you want to play with and against better players and a ranking makes it easier to see the progress | ||
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gaymon
Germany1023 Posts
If you dont like playing the fucking game, dont play it, why would things like that improve your experience ? Do you honestly need approval after doing every single fucking thing in your life ? Shit like this is honestly getting ridiculous, things like "kindergarten-graduation" or "elementary-school-gradutation" just make me want to scratch my eyes out and this is the exact same thing. And in the end something actually regarding the topic; if you are anywhere near decent you will be recognized by other people who are anywhere near decent, until then you unfortunately still are the 99.99% who suck. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/mBpfvA7.jpg) should we start a Fear's Body thread? | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
Let's leave it at that. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On July 08 2013 23:10 tosadalis wrote: The lack of sense of accomplishment is destroying my satisfaction with the game, pretty sure I am not the only one. I seriously cannot understand the pleasure of grinding games out and not seeing you reach any sort of ''hights'' . Like if you could have some sort of league rankings( let them have an option to show publicly or not ), you grind out games and you reach your goal, like a master's league. You can talk with your friends and shit, discuss how your grinding paid off and you know that for a fact you're the top 1% or whatever. I really doubt people would have a fit of you having your league hidden, it would be painfully obvious that you got matched with players around your skill level from your league, doesn't matter if they have it hidden or not. Meanwhile you could have people see them progress through steps. Anyone with any ounce of legitimate skill don't delude themselves into thinking they're better than they're really are. Anyone with any ounce of motivation don't need an arbitrary system of statistics to improve. If you don't know if you are improving or not, then you don't know diddly squat in the first place and an in-game system isn't going to change that. If anything, the in-game is only going to mislead people who don't know any better into thinking that they do. Sense of accomplishment? Get into an in-house league? Get a team? Go deep in some tournaments? | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
Not enough content to work with here. Unless he came over and provided us some pictures. On July 08 2013 23:06 ReignSupreme. wrote: Dotabuff is third party, you aren't going to look up your opponents/teammates to insult them during game and there's no interaction out of game, what a stupid observation Actually they did do this for the 1 or so days it was visible. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On July 08 2013 23:23 Unleashing wrote: Didn't we all agree that if you weren't on the first few pages you were shit? Let's leave it at that. I'm not in favor of a public ranking but I think im beginning to see why some people want it. it's true that if your not in the top .1% of players then you are a nobody but I can see why people would like to have an objective measure of their progress as a player. | ||
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Gheizen64
Italy2077 Posts
Frankly speaking, no one but the top 1% should be even rated, the rest is meaningless. At the lower echelon of play, having MMR visible would give terrible people reason to blame others when they're beyond terrible themselves. Those game are already toxic enough, if you don't understand this game then you shouldn't have the chance to judge others for it, especially if you play together (being not an impartial observer and all that). IF we'll get a rating it will be like this: - divided in colors for the lower 90, no personal rating but only color, and color is determined by the match, not by single players. So you'd know for example that you play "predominantly" in teal matches, but sometimes play in blue and sometimes in violet. For others only the last week or months would be visible to check which color you are, you would have the complete history. I'd think a nice division would be blue>teal>violet>yellow>orange (like sents colors). Same for top 10% but divided in real tier bronze4%, silver 3%, gold 2%, diamond 1%. Then a public top 100 of players, maybe divided for heroes or realms. | ||
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tosadalis
United Kingdom119 Posts
On July 08 2013 23:21 gaymon wrote: This whole ranking blabla is so typical of this generation; everybody is drooling over artifical achievments/ranks whatever. If you dont like playing the fucking game, dont play it, why would things like that improve your experience ? Do you honestly need approval after doing every single fucking thing in your life ? Shit like this is honestly getting ridiculous, things like "kindergarten-graduation" or "elementary-school-gradutation" just make me want to scratch my eyes out and this is the exact same thing. And in the end something actually regarding the topic; if you are anywhere near decent you will be recognized by other people who are anywhere near decent, until then you unfortunately still are the 99.99% who suck. ''This generation'' Are you fucking real? Are you real right now? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUUUUCK? Have you played broodwar? Have you played warcraft 3? THOSE GAMES HAD RANKING SYSTEMS IN THEM, ladders and everything. There were places like iccup and private warcraft servers with their own ranking systems and leagues that worked fucking splendid. How can you fucking pretend that a fucking wish for some sort of a league system is a ''typical thing of this generation''. Your post disgusted me to no end. | ||
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Grettin
42416 Posts
On July 08 2013 23:24 Comeh wrote: Not enough content to work with here. Unless he came over and provided us some pictures. i wonder where icystorage found this picture in the first place. | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
On July 08 2013 23:26 Grettin wrote: i wonder where icystorage found this picture in the first place. fear and i swap naked pics | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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Grettin
42416 Posts
thats what i thought. personal collection, no doubt. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On July 08 2013 23:26 tosadalis wrote: ''This generation'' Are you fucking real? Are you real right now? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUUUUCK? Have you played broodwar? Have you played warcraft 3? THOSE GAMES HAD RANKING SYSTEMS IN THEM, ladders and everything. There were places like iccup and private warcraft servers with their own ranking systems and leagues that worked fucking splendid. How can you fucking pretend that a fucking wish for some sort of a league system is a ''typical thing of this generation''. Your post disgusted me to no end. iccup exists for dota2, go play it. It'll give you a ranking just like you want. | ||
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Gheizen64
Italy2077 Posts
On July 08 2013 23:26 tosadalis wrote: ''This generation'' Are you fucking real? Are you real right now? WHAT THE ACTUAL FUUUUCK? Have you played broodwar? Have you played warcraft 3? THOSE GAMES HAD RANKING SYSTEMS IN THEM, ladders and everything. There were places like iccup and private warcraft servers with their own ranking systems and leagues that worked fucking splendid. How can you fucking pretend that a fucking wish for some sort of a league system is a ''typical thing of this generation''. Your post disgusted me to no end. Are you high? You're talking about 1vs1 games with a clear defined ELO, please go take a walk and relax. Team games are unrankable in terms of personal skills, and giving numbers to players just end in endless bitching , in the real world (see the concept of valuing soccer players, it's just endless retarded arguments with no clear substance) and in the online gaming world too. And yes he's right that the desire to be "recognized" while playing a game is retarded, either you are a pro player that make money, else you are playing a game you just sucks at. | ||
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