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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On July 08 2013 23:58 tosadalis wrote: That's why I started this talk, presenting my points on why I, and some other people, would want a ranking system. I tried defending my statements. And you can improve yes, but grinding is an efficient method of doing so, I'll again refer to starcraft scene because it is more well-established. Koreans, they're obviously better than foreigners, and the only sole reason for this is grinding. They grind out shitload of games, unbelievable amount of games and they improve a lot more. Grinding is ok. BLAH Double post, wanted to edit in, forgot. Grinding is pretty much the most inefficient method to improve unless you are playing with high skilled players, but chances are, you aren't. Why? Because Dota is one of those games that rewards you for shitty play, you think you are improving, but you very well might be reinforcing terrible habits, terrible positioning, etc. It's not like a FPS or RTS where you can improve on your mechanics through repetition. Again, stop using Starcraft as an example, your fate in a SC game isn't dependent on the actions of 9 others. That difference is very important and just overlooking it doesn't help your argument. A ranking system won't tell you if you are actually improving, or if you are just fluctuating from variance. If you want to improve, get 5 go form a team and play from there. Otherwise, you are just spinning your wheels. | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On July 09 2013 00:29 Judicator wrote: Grinding is pretty much the most inefficient method to improve unless you are playing with high skilled players, but chances are, you aren't. Why? Because Dota is one of those games that rewards you for shitty play, you think you are improving, but you very well might be reinforcing terrible habits, terrible positioning, etc. It's not like a FPS or RTS where you can improve on your mechanics through repetition. Again, stop using Starcraft as an example, your fate in a SC game isn't dependent on the actions of 9 others. That difference is very important and just overlooking it doesn't help your argument. A ranking system won't tell you if you are actually improving, or if you are just fluctuating from variance. If you want to improve, get 5 go form a team and play from there. Otherwise, you are just spinning your wheels. you mistake grinding games for grinding wins, not the same thing | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On July 09 2013 00:23 Kipsate wrote: I feel like we should collect all these arguments in a pastebin/TL post, compile them and link to it everytime this conversation comes up. And then insta-ban anyone who talks about it? I'm on board. | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On July 09 2013 00:52 FuzzyJAM wrote: And then insta-ban anyone who talks about it? I'm on board. banning people for having opinions, isnt that what hitler did ? | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
On July 09 2013 00:23 Kipsate wrote: I feel like we should collect all these arguments in a pastebin/TL post, compile them and link to it everytime this conversation comes up. Tumblr! | ||
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Grettin
42416 Posts
On July 09 2013 00:55 Kipsate wrote: Wow we brought Hitler into this, impressive. godwins law dude. this time it came early. | ||
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On July 09 2013 00:56 Andr3 wrote: I think it's time to lock the thread. This is how world war 3 will begin if this happens. | ||
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On July 09 2013 00:58 kollin wrote: what happened in the last few pages? Nothing out of the ordinary? | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
But I'm on board to compile the perfect argument for later use in a pastebin or something. | ||
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
oh | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On July 09 2013 00:58 kollin wrote: what happened in the last few pages? it was a bloodbath...few were left standing | ||
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
I say ban em all and let reddit sort it out later. | ||
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DV G
Argentina2339 Posts
Putted a ban against his ip Pull the clicker now he's banned..... ♪ Its always the same, people have opinions, after 1-2 months same questions/discussions arise, but because its with new people, the thread just starts again, and the same people that posted before sometimes dont do it again. We need to do something, anyway. Do Eastern teams need to ban wisp always, or practice it up as hard as they can to learn how to counter it? (lets change so it does not go too far out). | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On July 09 2013 01:15 DV G wrote: Mammaa, i banned a man Putted a ban against his ip Pull the clicker now he's banned..... ♪ Its always the same, people have opinions, after 1-2 months same questions/discussions arise, but because its with new people, the thread just starts again, and the same people that posted before sometimes dont do it again. We need to do something, anyway. Do Eastern teams need to ban wisp always, or practice it up as hard as they can to learn how to counter it? (lets change so it does not go too far out). they need to ban wisp in games that matter, like finals, and continue playing against it in pools and stuff, and just adapt. its not really hard overall, but it takes time to adapt. | ||
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NeonFlare
Finland1307 Posts
On July 09 2013 00:59 cilinder007 wrote: it was a bloodbath...few were left standing Well, that map was so tiny it was full of crazy shenanigans. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On July 09 2013 01:23 NeonFlare wrote: Well, that map was so tiny it was full of crazy shenanigans. Is there an sc2 version? | ||
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