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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 23:27:47
June 07 2013 23:27 GMT
#60741
On June 08 2013 08:25 Comeh wrote:
eh, the only problem with mek on Huskar now is that there are other items which feel a bit more needed for him. Doesn't seem bad though.

i don't see what he needs more than like phase mek ghost scepter aghs. those 4 items cover pretty much all the bases imo. at least at first glance. need to test it.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 23:28:13
June 07 2013 23:27 GMT
#60742
Mekansm seems a bit odd, no? Its a huge investment (almost equal to Armlet)

On June 08 2013 08:27 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 08:25 Comeh wrote:
eh, the only problem with mek on Huskar now is that there are other items which feel a bit more needed for him. Doesn't seem bad though.

i don't see what he needs more than like phase mek ghost scepter aghs. those 4 items cover pretty much all the bases imo. at least at first glance. need to test it.


So mekansm instead of armlet?
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 07 2013 23:31 GMT
#60743
On June 08 2013 08:27 Torte de Lini wrote:
Mekansm seems a bit odd, no? Its a huge investment (almost equal to Armlet)

Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 08:27 PrinceXizor wrote:
On June 08 2013 08:25 Comeh wrote:
eh, the only problem with mek on Huskar now is that there are other items which feel a bit more needed for him. Doesn't seem bad though.

i don't see what he needs more than like phase mek ghost scepter aghs. those 4 items cover pretty much all the bases imo. at least at first glance. need to test it.


So mekansm instead of armlet?

Try going with a mek and let us know how it goes, i still need to play him a lot before i decide on what i think is best.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 07 2013 23:32 GMT
#60744
When I get back, I'll try Mekansm instead of Armlet.

So the build would be: Bottle -> Boots -> Treads -> Mekansm -> Ghost Scepter -> Aghs
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 23:37:21
June 07 2013 23:34 GMT
#60745
I like phase more than treads, just because the extra damage and speed will help him control runes better if you run him mid. but again its possible treads is the best possible boots for him.

also worth considering as an item would be heavens halberd for more of a ganky style huskarr. sange will probably proc pretty quick with the attack speed. sange provides a pretty cost effective amount of hp/damage to husk and then halberd with its evasion helps him survive greatly, and then the disarm would pretty much accomplish something similar to ghost scepter in that it makes him invulnerable, to a single enemy instead of the group, so if you were to jump on a critical hero and just wail on them, they have to either blow big cooldowns to keep you off, or rely on their team since they can't fight back in any other way.
this sort of build would scream, FOCUS ME. and give the enemy little recourse to actually do so. Its worth considering as an item as well.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 23:34:40
June 07 2013 23:34 GMT
#60746
Better to get Drums instead of a Bottle...as was said he has like no mana needs, unless you're laning mid.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 07 2013 23:38 GMT
#60747
even if you're laning mid huskar doesn't use any mana
also you should probably get aghs before ghost
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 07 2013 23:40 GMT
#60748
Ghost is only useful at the point where physical immunity is useful.

It's only potentially useful early against someone with a large physical damage spell that might kill you from low-ish health but is also easily dodge-able (e.g. Jugg ulti).
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Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 23:42:34
June 07 2013 23:41 GMT
#60749
On June 08 2013 08:32 Torte de Lini wrote:
When I get back, I'll try Mekansm instead of Armlet.

So the build would be: Bottle -> Boots -> Treads -> Mekansm -> Ghost Scepter -> Aghs


why would u go for a bottle? u dont use mana we have already gone through this, even if ur mid that doesn't mean u have to get a bottle everytime,

I would try out something like this double gautle -> necessary healing for the lane -> boots -> threads -> mek -> armlet -> ghost -> aghs

Also doesn't burning spear override the sange slow?
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 07 2013 23:44 GMT
#60750
Sange isn't an orb and hasn't been one for as long as DotA 2 has been around.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 23:46:56
June 07 2013 23:45 GMT
#60751
On June 08 2013 08:41 Darkren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 08:32 Torte de Lini wrote:
When I get back, I'll try Mekansm instead of Armlet.

So the build would be: Bottle -> Boots -> Treads -> Mekansm -> Ghost Scepter -> Aghs


why would u go for a bottle? u dont use mana we have already gone through this, even if ur mid that doesn't mean u have to get a bottle everytime,

I would try out something like this double gautle -> necessary healing for the lane -> boots -> threads -> mek -> armlet -> ghost -> aghs

Also doesn't burning spear override the sange slow?

I'd throw out armlet all together it doesn't seem really conducive to the hero as much anymore. and burning spear maybe? overrides sange but you get 2 attacks a second you can not use burning spear except during the duration of sange and still deal massive damage. consider the maim as a mid game use for the item where as the game goes on the other stats and abilities are more important and the maim is more of a when you need it sort of thing.

EDIT: read yango. it USED to be an orb right? i'm not crazy? lol

T_T i get so much confused that has changed since slark patch.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
June 07 2013 23:48 GMT
#60752
I think mek could be decent but the problem is that a lot of huskar fights are kind of scrappy where maybe you jump/kill someone and then have to run around in teamfights with a somewhat low health pool. Mek would top you off once you pop it but if the fight continues you have no real way to stay in it until its off cd (whereas with armlet you can run away and toggle a bit).
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 07 2013 23:50 GMT
#60753
On June 08 2013 08:48 RuskiPanda wrote:
I think mek could be decent but the problem is that a lot of huskar fights are kind of scrappy where maybe you jump/kill someone and then have to run around in teamfights with a somewhat low health pool. Mek would top you off once you pop it but if the fight continues you have no real way to stay in it until its off cd (whereas with armlet you can run away and toggle a bit).

my understanding is you would jump in with mek attack and mek when you need it then when you need to retreat ghost scepter and orb walk while you heal from inner vitality. could also with aghs just jump to somone on the outside of the fight and do the same thing
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
June 07 2013 23:52 GMT
#60754
Holy shit I look away for like 1 hour and you nut jobs send Torte on a mission to build mek on husk in MATCHMAKING???
RIP Tortes account.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 00:00:55
June 07 2013 23:56 GMT
#60755
Hey, he asked for the standard build. What's more standard than Mek + Ghost Scepter on Huskar?!

I can picture a random nub reading his guide, buying Ghost Scepter and having no idea wtf is going on. Plus the flames from his teammates for the random items.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 08 2013 00:01 GMT
#60756
On June 08 2013 08:56 SKC wrote:
Hey, he asked for the standard build. What's more standard than Mek + Ghost Scepter on Huskar?!

I can picture a random nub reading his guide, buying Ghost Scepter and having no idea wtf is going on. Plus the flames from his teammates for the random items.

i don't think i've ever seen anyone flame for buying a mek, and using it. even seen an antimage not get yelled at for mek buying.
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
June 08 2013 00:05 GMT
#60757
On June 08 2013 09:01 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 08:56 SKC wrote:
Hey, he asked for the standard build. What's more standard than Mek + Ghost Scepter on Huskar?!

I can picture a random nub reading his guide, buying Ghost Scepter and having no idea wtf is going on. Plus the flames from his teammates for the random items.

i don't think i've ever seen anyone flame for buying a mek, and using it. even seen an antimage not get yelled at for mek buying.


Unless multiple people on the same team build it, then all of a sudden they act as if it takes health from you.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 00:19:24
June 08 2013 00:18 GMT
#60758
Just saying that if I was writing a guide often aimed at beginners I wouldn't use a gimmicky build like Ghost Scepter Huskar, even if it turns out to be a good build. Even people with a lot of experience on the game wouldn't really know how that works and a steam guide isn't exactly in depth. People from the lower levels of play would probally have far better sucess with something more standard like Armlet -> Aghs/Damage. It's better to keep it simple, more mechanically demanding builds like Blink WR, Blink Meepo, etc. are better left to people that don't really need a guide, even if they are as good or even better. You can just list them as a situational item, if that.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 08 2013 00:24 GMT
#60759
On June 08 2013 09:18 SKC wrote:
Just saying that if I was writing a guide often aimed at beginners I wouldn't use a gimmicky build like Ghost Scepter Huskar, even if it turns out to be a good build. Even people with a lot of experience on the game wouldn't really know how that works and a steam guide isn't exactly in depth. People from the lower levels of play would probally have far better sucess with something more standard like Armlet -> Aghs/Damage. It's better to keep it simple, more mechanically demanding builds like Blink WR, Blink Meepo, etc. are better left to people that don't really need a guide, even if they are as good or even better. You can just list them as a situational item, if that.

if you aren't going for ghost scepter then i think urn -> medallion -> aghs is gonna be better for you than armlet ever will.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 08 2013 00:47 GMT
#60760
On June 08 2013 09:18 SKC wrote:
Just saying that if I was writing a guide often aimed at beginners I wouldn't use a gimmicky build like Ghost Scepter Huskar, even if it turns out to be a good build. Even people with a lot of experience on the game wouldn't really know how that works and a steam guide isn't exactly in depth. People from the lower levels of play would probally have far better sucess with something more standard like Armlet -> Aghs/Damage. It's better to keep it simple, more mechanically demanding builds like Blink WR, Blink Meepo, etc. are better left to people that don't really need a guide, even if they are as good or even better. You can just list them as a situational item, if that.

Armlet is by nature a mechanically demanding item, though.
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