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SXGCoil
United States341 Posts
On May 31 2013 00:44 Torte de Lini wrote: Would this work: Ring of Prot Quelling Blade Tangos Salve Stout is toogood mitigation to pass up imo. Eat a big centaur, kill its soncause he only hits for slightlyhigher than 20. | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
On May 31 2013 00:44 Torte de Lini wrote: Would this work: Ring of Prot Quelling Blade Tangos Salve Depends on what creep you devour first. If you get a troll warlord/satyr/wildking then your starting item build doesn't matter much. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On May 31 2013 00:50 BlitzerSC wrote: Depends on what creep you devour first. If you get a troll warlord/satyr/wildking then your starting item build doesn't matter much. and if not? | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
You probably need a stout shield, the damage mitigation is just too good combined with the ring of protection. You'll probably have to buy extra regen though. Remember to NEVER USE the ursa clap or the centaur stun otherwise it will drain all your mana and make your jungle a pain. Just go with devour and scorched earth. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
The now enormous gap in production the cause maybe? | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
If anything they lead into it, so those tournaments should prop it up. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
On May 31 2013 00:55 teapoted wrote: Well it's not on at the same time ever. If anything they lead into it, so those tournaments should prop it up. There's only so much Dota one can watch in a day. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On May 31 2013 00:56 Firebolt145 wrote: Says who? =PThere's only so much Dota one can watch in a day. Sure, maybe people are a bit burned out. But I think the audience for those 2 must be different. Defense starts after the European work-day. TI3/G-1 is during. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On May 31 2013 00:54 teapoted wrote: Defense getting some real low numbers. Of course not the absolute top teams but last season they like never dipped below 10k unless it was 2 no-name teams in the group stage. The now enormous gap in production the cause maybe? It's at 9k very early in the day for US, with VP playing Next.Kz. Not exactly big draw teams. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On May 31 2013 00:59 crms wrote: US is the smallest market anyway, not really relevant. And VP is a decent draw, I'm only comparing to what I remember from last season.It's at 9k very early in the day for US, with VP playing Next.Kz. Not exactly big draw teams. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
I'm pretty sure tornament organizers say US makes up for a very significant amoung of viewers. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
I'm pretty sure tornament organizers say US makes up for a very significant amoung of viewers. For a single country yes. But compared to the European time-zone I can't imagine it is. Since forever the biggest numbers are between europeans leaving work and going to bed. There's a big drop-off after that point which we've seen in every tournament that runs after midnight CET. | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
Every single vision-related ability got adjusted. The ward change buffs heroes like BM or Clock while the bottle nerfs hit their ability to gain levels quickly. SD poison, Kunkkas X, TC spirit, Wisp spirits, Batrider, Slardar/BH, even Thralls Thunder strike. Combined with the wards stock change every lost ward will hurt twice as much as before while getting those wards down will be made harder with the sentry nerf. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On May 31 2013 01:02 teapoted wrote: I'm not making a big deal about it, I just think it's low given Tobi's draw. For a single country yes. But compared to the European time-zone I can't imagine it is. Since forever the biggest numbers are between europeans leaving work and going to bed. There's a big drop-off after that point which we've seen in every tournament that runs after midnight CET. That's also because that timezone is the best to accomodate both american and EU viewers, so you have the best possible scenario. You just said american vieweship is not relevant at all, when it is, it could add those couple of thousand it's missing for you to be happy with their viewership. It doesn't have to be the biggest factor. Losing one side completelly is bad, be it because it's too late for EU, be it because it's too early for the americas. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On May 31 2013 01:10 SKC wrote: I said "not really relevant" because I believe it's "not really relevant" to my point.That's also because that timezone is the best to accomodate both american and EU viewers, so you have the best possible scenario. You just said american vieweship is not relevant at all, when it is, it could add those couple of thousand it's missing for you to be happy with their viewership. It doesn't have to be the biggest factor. I'm still comparing the same thing now and then. I dno, maybe I don't have a point, I still think it's seemed low regardless of times, teams, anything. And even on this forum there wasn't a thread until after the first day or something. | ||
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hfglgg
Germany5372 Posts
On May 31 2013 00:54 teapoted wrote: Defense getting some real low numbers. Of course not the absolute top teams but last season they like never dipped below 10k unless it was 2 no-name teams in the group stage. The now enormous gap in production the cause maybe? well ti qualifier take a large portion of the viewrs (i think a lot of viewer only watch a few hours and dont want to spend half the day watching dota) early in the tournament vp doesnt have the most fans in the west next.kz is not the most entertaining team terrible production this order i think. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
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