EPTI think he was referring to your post, not his.
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
I think he was referring to your post, not his. | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On May 19 2013 13:55 blahz0r wrote: I can't tell if you're serious. This hero is extremely powerful from early to mid if you build him (both skill and item) correctly. Getting a super fast Mek and then another major item in the first 15-20 minutes wins games. Games where I random Necro is like an automatic easy win. Personal opinion I just don't like his abilities, 2 passives that are pretty meh, Pulse is ok, and scythe is kinda meh. Like, i understand that he's powerful in his own way, but i just find him boring Should have phrased better | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Cyx.
Canada806 Posts
On May 19 2013 14:33 Shaella wrote: Personal opinion I just don't like his abilities, 2 passives that are pretty meh, Pulse is ok, and scythe is kinda meh. Like, i understand that he's powerful in his own way, but i just find him boring Should have phrased better Fast radiance makes his pulse + sadist SUPER awesome, and synergizes well with heartstopper too, as well as making you able to solo kill supports with 2 rightclicks + burn damage + pulse + scythe. Try that shit, it's unreal =D | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
mek makes him a lot better I just.. I unno. If i play a support that KSes like a boss, i'll play visage | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 19 2013 15:24 Shaella wrote: I just.. I unno. If i play a support that KSes like a boss, i'll play visage Necro isn't a support. He's a carry. You need to give him mid (awkward cuz his ganking is mediocre and he has some bad matchups--but he crushes almost all melees really hard) or freefarm him safe lane. Anything less than 2nd position farm makes it rough for Necro to really bring his advantages to bear (it's Zhou and Burning who play Necrolyte on iG and DK, not the lower-position players). Necro requires you to be able to get an advantage off of either your fundamentals, or your lane matchup early. If you get an advantage you basically crush your lane because even the first rank of Sadist means you're constantly regen-ing a ton of HP and mana. Necro has two things that make him really good in pubs: 1) he turns around fights where the other team overcommits really well (heal teammate, Scythe enemy that dived for kill), and 2) he snowballs really hard once you get to the point where your team can just kill someone. As soon as someone drops into Scythe kill range, you just grab the kill and instantly pop your HP up and clean up the fight. | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On May 19 2013 15:32 TheYango wrote: Necro isn't a support. He's a carry. You need to give him mid (awkward cuz his ganking is mediocre and he has some bad matchups--but he crushes almost all melees really hard) or freefarm him safe lane. Necro requires you to be able to get an advantage off of either your fundamentals, or your lane matchup early. If you get an advantage you basically crush your lane because even the first rank of Sadist means you're constantly regen-ing a ton of HP and mana. Necro has two things that make him really good in pubs: 1) he turns around fights where the other team overcommits really well (heal teammate, Scythe enemy that dived for kill), and 2) he snowballs really hard once you get to the point where your team can just kill someone. As soon as someone drops into Scythe kill range, you just grab the kill and instantly pop your HP up and clean up the fight. i've never had success with a mid necro, but i think my mechanics with him just suck (which is definately part of it) I can see that if you did get that level/gold advantage that mid gives, yeah, he could definately be a terror because of the ability to just instagib someone | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
I'd always put necro in the timbersaw basket, as one of those awkward heroes that needs to be laned like a carry but doesn't really carry. I never really knew how to treat him when he was on my team. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Laning them like a carry isn't a bad thing. They can't break a base on their own and don't have lategame physical damage, but honestly their ability to snowball games with an advantage is so good that in a hands of a good player, that it doesn't matter that you're not a lategame physical carry. You just crush the game and get your entire team fed, so even if you had a carry in a not so good laning situation (solo mid/duo hard lane), they will get fed off of you basically taking over the game. In competitive games people won't let them snowball, but pub games snowball like this really easily. It's just a matter of being good enough at the hero to outplay your opponents. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On May 19 2013 15:54 Belisarius wrote: That's interesting. I'd always put necro in the timbersaw basket, as one of those awkward heroes that needs to be laned like a carry but doesn't really carry. I never really knew how to treat him when he was on my team. He's usually picked when one team aggressively trilanes and you get to lane vs a "soft" laner like dark seer which the necrolyte can handle in lane pretty well. Personally I love my phase drums on necrolyte as it makes him not get caught behind after teamfights (something which often happens in pubs) and I'm bad at lasthitting with him so phases is super awesome. Late midgame (where I think he should hit his peak? Around when he has mek and 2 big items,could be wrong) he's basically really really hard to kill and will snowball the fights around if people focused him and he gets someone as sadist will make him regen and death pulse spamm / heartstopper ensures it that people are at a reduced amount of hit points. Problem with necrolyte is his laning, he doesn't really hit his strength untill he's lvl 7-9 and by then you're often behind if you got bashed on in lane and you can't have full impact on game. From a different view: he makes for some hillarious combos with dazzle if you're ahead, as people just don't die ^.^ | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On May 19 2013 16:19 Itsmedudeman wrote: What are these queue times right now.... USW servers are done, move to E | ||
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5-s
United States1674 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
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RiZu
Singapore5715 Posts
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Oktyabr
Singapore2234 Posts
On May 19 2013 17:21 RiZu wrote: Is it confirmed that you get 1 rare item if you bet with 1 rare item in dota lounge? No, it is based on the odds. If it says "0.4 for 1" then out of 10 guys who bet only 1 rare, roughly 4 of them will get that 1 rare. If it's say "1.3 for 1", then you will definitely get 1 back, and roughly 3 out of 10 guys who bet only 1 rare will get an additional rare back. At least that's how I think it works. | ||
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elt
Thailand1092 Posts
I'd assume max Death pulse, one in Sadist at lvl 2/3 and max Heartstopper second? | ||
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