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CuddlyCuteKitten
Sweden2889 Posts
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On May 19 2013 06:35 TheYango wrote: I don't agree with that. I don't think it's a good idea to buff things that are just out of style because they don't fit the current trends of how the game is played. Because that inevitably changes. Radiance was totally fine in 6.74, and even early 6.75 on certain heroes. The item is fine, it's just the pace of the game is too fast for it right this moment. But if the general pace of the game changes a few versions from now do you just revert your unnecessary buff that was just a reaction to current playstyles and not to a legitimate weakness of the item? I guess, but i just look at it right now, its its just so so niche right now, and its never really been anything but incredibly niche | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
On May 19 2013 06:40 Shaella wrote: I guess, but i just look at it right now, its its just so so niche right now, and its never really been anything but incredibly niche ??? There were times when nothing but Radiance carries (usually Doom, Weaver, Spectre, Syllabear) were played. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
Teamliquid dota GD | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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Soap
Brazil1546 Posts
> bdc5z has randomed Phantom Lancer > [ALLIES] bdc5z: is phantom lancer any good? | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
what a funny game that was | ||
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Avean
Norway449 Posts
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Pseudoku
Canada1279 Posts
On May 19 2013 08:33 Avean wrote: Tried Dota 2 for the first time and my god how more advanced it is than LoL. I could easily go into LoL and understand it but Dota 2 is way more complicated. Its heroes abilities are alot more difficult to understand. Think i need to watch youtube tutorials on this game. You can also just play bot games to get a feel with some heroes. | ||
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Gheizen64
Italy2077 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
edit - Also fix armlet bear and we might see radiance bear more often | ||
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Zealos
United Kingdom3576 Posts
On May 19 2013 08:39 Nevuk wrote: Radiance WAS buffed in a recent patch. Wasn't it? (6.75 I thought, I remember thinking it was hilarious that they had overlooked sticky napalm working again with it and it was like patched the next day). From 40 - >45 burn damage. edit - Also fix armlet bear and we might see radiance bear more often Radiance bear was phased out for maelstrom before people started using armlet wasn't it? | ||
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Gheizen64
Italy2077 Posts
+60 damage 30 burn damage 8% evasion I'd use that. | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
On May 19 2013 08:43 Zealos wrote: Radiance bear was phased out for maelstrom before people started using armlet wasn't it? Not really , just different play styles, more trends rather than meta shift.. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On May 19 2013 08:43 Zealos wrote: Radiance bear was phased out for maelstrom before people started using armlet wasn't it? Not really. Maelstrom is more of an alternative to radiance that provides different timings. Maelstrom -> AC makes your push timing a lot faster than the radiance -> AC pushes. | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On May 19 2013 05:25 maru~ wrote: Snake won't hit that many heroes usually though. You also lose quite a bit if you go for Snake build, don't forget that you are still the carry. The problem is that if you go for Snake, you either max it with stats which delays Shield and Splitshot, or you go Snake+Shield in which case you don't have the early stats which means your Shield will be weaker, you'll be easier to gank and have weaker lh, while also not having the stats later on in the fights. Shield stats on the other hand makes you really tanky from very early in the game, is very good against harass and allows to trade hits easily etc. Stats are quite underrated. But there are reasons why for example many Gyro players go for 4-1-4 or even 1-1-4 (or maybe even 1-0-4) builds. Why would you skill a mediocre nuke (unless it hits a lot of heroes) which does you more bad than good if it hits less than 3 heroes instead of stats which are fantastic on Dusa because she is one of the few heroes where all 3 stats are of utmost importance and which boost her early and midgame? How is mystic snake awful? Many heroes are mana starve early game, it hurts them a lot, later it's so spammable you can farm faster with it, it's great at killing escaping ennemies, it breaks sieges from ennemies, it gives you mana which is equal to HP. My favorite skill build is snake stats snake stats snake ulti snake mana shield x2 then max ulti split shot stats.It's timed so you can always clear creep waves fast. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 19 2013 08:48 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Not really. Maelstrom is more of an alternative to radiance that provides different timings. Maelstrom -> AC makes your push timing a lot faster than the radiance -> AC pushes. Except Radiance Bear's first push timing is the Radiance push. Radiance on Bear is completely unlike on other carries because Bear does not need to pair it with a survivability item. | ||
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Zealos
United Kingdom3576 Posts
On May 19 2013 08:47 Gheizen64 wrote: I'd rather see some sort of remake, maybe don't make it a farming item but more of an item for tank, like lower damage and give evasion, something like: +60 damage 30 burn damage 8% evasion I'd use that. 8% doesn't seem all that useful. Not to mention if it were an item for a "tank" then the +60 dmg wouldn't really be all too useful. I don't really know about changing items, but I'd make the buildup to it different, then having less +dmg as an item. Perhaps using a demon edge instead of Relic then adjusting the +dmg appropriately? | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 19 2013 09:01 Zealos wrote: 8% doesn't seem all that useful. Not to mention if it were an item for a "tank" then the +60 dmg wouldn't really be all too useful. I don't really know about changing items, but I'd make the buildup to it different, then having less +dmg as an item. Perhaps using a demon edge instead of Relic then adjusting the +dmg appropriately? You missed the joke. | ||
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CuddlyCuteKitten
Sweden2889 Posts
Also radiance on bear lets you push a lane while not being there. | ||
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