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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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maru~
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On May 19 2013 02:29 r.Evo wrote: PS: When you take out the regen portion of the BF (since we we're talking about followups to the perseverance... you now pay 40 gold per damage. Suddenly BF beats even blades of attack in terms of cost effectiveness.) 47.27 actually (Perseverance is +10 damage, so you only get +55 from completing the Bfury). | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
edit Really, actually wondering this about any melee hero. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
Anything suggested by Shikyo falls into that category, hence BF Medusa being tossed out But in all seriousness why the fuck would you pick Medusa let alone buy a bf on her. | ||
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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
On May 19 2013 02:53 cecek wrote: Just forget it. Battlefury is core on Medusa, Weaver and pretty much any other hero. No need to be passive aggressive when faced with maff. | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
On May 19 2013 01:48 cecek wrote: Except for Blades of Attack, Broadsword, Claymore, Mithril hammer, Phase boots, GG branch, Slippers of Agility (and equivalents), Armlet (activated) and sacred relic. That is if we count flat damage only. I explained to you why you're wrong (because you just spewed out information without looking at the numbers), faced with that you get snarky instead of accepting that your initial argument was flat out wrong. When faced with Perseverance --> ??? the only possible reason for Linkens on a hero like Medusa is because you want the spell block. If that portion of Linkens isn't needed it is a waste of gold compared to BF, plain and simply because it gives less bang for the buck and you might as well build BF+Ultimate orb instead. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
On May 19 2013 03:07 Nevuk wrote: Ironically we could currently be watching a linken's weaver in a tournament game (which started this whole discussion) ...and he's trying to outcarry/outfarm the enemy Luna on top of that. =D | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
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Grettin
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On May 19 2013 03:09 Yoshi- wrote: Is dota2 broken atm? I get like 200 ping on euw and huge queue times Queue times are 2-6mins but other than that, seems fine. | ||
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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
I guess that settles it | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
On May 19 2013 03:07 r.Evo wrote: I explained to you why you're wrong (because you just spewed out information without looking at the numbers), faced with that you get snarky instead of accepting that your initial argument was flat out wrong. When faced with Perseverance --> ??? the only possible reason for Linkens on a hero like Medusa is because you want the spell block. If that portion of Linkens isn't needed it is a waste of gold compared to BF, plain and simply because it gives less bang for the buck and you might as well build BF+Ultimate orb instead. Dude, you said, and I quote: "You realize that BF is the most cost-efficient flat damage item in the game besides Demon Edge, right?" You were trying to be a fucking smartass and you were flat out wrong, so I pointed it out to make you look dumb. And of course you're buying the Linkens for the damage block. That's like saying you should get a snage instead of a bkb, because Sange has better stats. You're just throwing around random number that don't make any sense in an actual game. | ||
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
On May 19 2013 03:15 solidbebe wrote: Well the team with weaver lost I guess that settles it They had a Zeus which honestly is always a bad pick. I really loved the casters (GD) bitching about him getting aghs and not a veil. How is he gonna veil if he dies in three hits? Just like game 1 the team got outdrafted. On May 19 2013 03:16 cecek wrote: Dude, you said, and I quote: "You realize that BF is the most cost-efficient flat damage item in the game besides Demon Edge, right?" You were trying to be a fucking smartass and you were flat out wrong, so I pointed it out to make you look dumb. And of course you're buying the Linkens for the damage block. That's like saying you should get a snage instead of a bkb, because Sange has better stats. You're just throwing around random number that don't make any sense in an actual game. Can't really believe this discussion is still happening but you don't buy things based only on stats. If that were the case you'd see just 6 gg branches because they are the most cost effective item in the game. You get the linkens on weaver because you block the initial stun/disable and you can shukuchi away and wait for your team. You can't put a gold value on that. Why this boiled down to "well the stats are more efficient on x item" is beyond me because it's completely irrelevant. I know the counter will be "but you get 10 seconds initially with bkb so it's better" except if you get hit by the first stun you're dead. BKB doesn't matter at that point. | ||
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Skullflower
United States3779 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
On May 19 2013 03:16 cecek wrote: Dude, you said, and I quote: "You realize that BF is the most cost-efficient flat damage item in the game besides Demon Edge, right?" You were trying to be a fucking smartass and you were flat out wrong, so I pointed it out to make you look dumb. And of course you're buying the Linkens for the damage block. That's like saying you should get a snage instead of a bkb, because Sange has better stats. You're just throwing around random number that don't make any sense in an actual game. How exactly is the statement "BF is the most cost-efficient flat dmg item in the game besides Demon Edge" wrong? Once again: Dmg portion of BF (ignoring the regen you get for that cost as well): 67 gold per dmg. Claymore/Broadsword/Hammer: 67 gold per dmg. Relic: 62 gold per dmg. Demon Edge: 52 gold per dmg. Dmg portion of BF (assuming you wanted the regen portion anyway): 47 gold per dmg. | ||
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Skullflower
United States3779 Posts
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