edit: sny is awful too
but at least it makes you run faster and running fast owns
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
May 18 2013 12:03 GMT
#57241
edit: sny is awful too but at least it makes you run faster and running fast owns | ||
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Narcind
Sweden2489 Posts
May 18 2013 12:05 GMT
#57242
I'm not sure, but I think that change made it a bit more popular, but still not insanely so by any means, and I'm not sure that's the best way to go about buffing the item, should that be needed. | ||
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Incze
Romania2058 Posts
May 18 2013 12:06 GMT
#57243
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Testuser
6469 Posts
May 18 2013 12:11 GMT
#57244
On May 18 2013 21:05 Canas wrote: In hon they made it so that when linken's was on cooldown and someone used a spell on you that would trigger it, the cooldown would reduce by 5 seconds. They also reduced the cost of the recipe by like 300 gold. I'm not sure, but I think that change made it a bit more popular, but still not insanely so by any means, and I'm not sure that's the best way to go about buffing the item, should that be needed. They removed that though (the whole cooldown reduction thing). | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
May 18 2013 12:13 GMT
#57245
On May 18 2013 19:40 BurningSera wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2013 19:14 Iplaythings wrote: On May 18 2013 18:24 BurningSera wrote: The only reason for me (ever) going linken first weaver would has to be playing against a Doom but I'd still avoid getting that horrible item on weaver if i could. Even bfury is a better item for weaver when compared to Linken. That's straight out bullshit, linkens is good for weaver as it makes alot of his hard counters (lion, silencer) make him loose worth and makes him a pain in the ass to lock down in teamfights, if you don't have linkens (or bkb, which I agree is better in the majority of the cases) there's very few times where you can actually run rampant. Weaver doesn't need a damage dealing item as his first item to make impact on teamfights, he just needs to not get locked down and die and if he cannot do that he cannot do the job, linkens is more often choosed on weaver over bkb simply because ultimate orb is a really fucking good item on weaver and weaver in shukuichi often really gets 1 spell in the face before running away / time lapsing away. Only thing about linkens is that I think it's completely wasted if you get it too late as the mana solving issue will be non relevant after you allready have drums, treads and aquila Bkb 3900gold. Or, people should actually think when they are playing weaver, how to positioning, how to engage/getting out of teamfight with shukuchi/ulti. No, that wasn't bullshit, at all. The battlefury part And people on TL hate on linkens with a passion, so ofcourse I wouldn't be agreed with | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
May 18 2013 12:14 GMT
#57246
On May 18 2013 20:55 Testuser wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2013 20:52 Dead9 wrote: idk but as it stands linkens is one of the worst items in the game Show nested quote + On May 18 2013 20:52 Yoshi- wrote: Linkens is fine the way it is. No need to make random buff to make it op Clearly everyone doesn't think the same. I'd like to see a buff to the item, not necessarily one reminiscent of what I suggested, but something to make the item worth buying in a wider array of cases. If you think linkens is worse than rod, sange or veil You are quite weird | ||
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ArcticRaven
France1406 Posts
May 18 2013 12:23 GMT
#57247
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
May 18 2013 12:24 GMT
#57248
On May 18 2013 21:23 ArcticRaven wrote: Rod gives insane stats, it's just that the heroes that want it can't get it/need something else more importantly. Same for Sange & Halberd. As for Veil... the item is good on bad heroes mostly so... And yet still linkens is picked up more than all three items combined And the stats that rod give are absolute terrible for it costs | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
May 18 2013 12:26 GMT
#57249
On May 18 2013 21:13 Iplaythings wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2013 19:40 BurningSera wrote: On May 18 2013 19:14 Iplaythings wrote: On May 18 2013 18:24 BurningSera wrote: The only reason for me (ever) going linken first weaver would has to be playing against a Doom but I'd still avoid getting that horrible item on weaver if i could. Even bfury is a better item for weaver when compared to Linken. That's straight out bullshit, linkens is good for weaver as it makes alot of his hard counters (lion, silencer) make him loose worth and makes him a pain in the ass to lock down in teamfights, if you don't have linkens (or bkb, which I agree is better in the majority of the cases) there's very few times where you can actually run rampant. Weaver doesn't need a damage dealing item as his first item to make impact on teamfights, he just needs to not get locked down and die and if he cannot do that he cannot do the job, linkens is more often choosed on weaver over bkb simply because ultimate orb is a really fucking good item on weaver and weaver in shukuichi often really gets 1 spell in the face before running away / time lapsing away. Only thing about linkens is that I think it's completely wasted if you get it too late as the mana solving issue will be non relevant after you allready have drums, treads and aquila Bkb 3900gold. Or, people should actually think when they are playing weaver, how to positioning, how to engage/getting out of teamfight with shukuchi/ulti. No, that wasn't bullshit, at all. The battlefury part And people on TL hate on linkens with a passion, so ofcourse I wouldn't be agreed with That was exaggerating yes but if you really needed that perse early, spending another 2600gold can give you +60damage, not a bad deal at all (albeit without stats, but on the dps aspect), at least, to me lol. Obviously not for uber serious game but this is coming from someone who consistently building basher/AB on his mirana and bfury from time to time >_> + Show Spoiler [10% stun huehue] + (some tler are in them) bfury mirana: http://dotabuff.com/matches/67138001 http://dotabuff.com/matches/118665467 basher mirana: http://dotabuff.com/matches/194544001 http://dotabuff.com/matches/192460047 | ||
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maru~
2345 Posts
May 18 2013 12:32 GMT
#57250
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Mithhaike
Singapore2759 Posts
May 18 2013 12:51 GMT
#57251
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Testuser
6469 Posts
May 18 2013 13:08 GMT
#57252
On May 18 2013 21:14 Yoshi- wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2013 20:55 Testuser wrote: On May 18 2013 20:52 Dead9 wrote: idk but as it stands linkens is one of the worst items in the game On May 18 2013 20:52 Yoshi- wrote: Linkens is fine the way it is. No need to make random buff to make it op Clearly everyone doesn't think the same. I'd like to see a buff to the item, not necessarily one reminiscent of what I suggested, but something to make the item worth buying in a wider array of cases. If you think linkens is worse than rod, sange or veil You are quite weird I never said that, so please don't try to put words in my mouth. | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
May 18 2013 13:12 GMT
#57253
On May 18 2013 22:08 Testuser wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2013 21:14 Yoshi- wrote: On May 18 2013 20:55 Testuser wrote: On May 18 2013 20:52 Dead9 wrote: idk but as it stands linkens is one of the worst items in the game On May 18 2013 20:52 Yoshi- wrote: Linkens is fine the way it is. No need to make random buff to make it op Clearly everyone doesn't think the same. I'd like to see a buff to the item, not necessarily one reminiscent of what I suggested, but something to make the item worth buying in a wider array of cases. If you think linkens is worse than rod, sange or veil You are quite weird I never said that, so please don't try to put words in my mouth. But the guy who you quoted? | ||
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SXGCoil
United States341 Posts
May 18 2013 13:49 GMT
#57254
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wairai
Malaysia1000 Posts
May 18 2013 13:54 GMT
#57255
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valheru
Australia966 Posts
May 18 2013 14:01 GMT
#57256
On May 18 2013 22:49 SXGCoil wrote: How would daedulus be on Doom? It gives good damage and a better crit modifier than the alpha wolf. You lose out on the 30% dmg aura but would the centaur stun and the 15% atkspeed aura make up for it? Spending 5k on an item that gives pure damage is probably not worth it on doom. Yeah Daedalus gives a better crit/more damage but putting the 5k to an AC and eating an alpha wolf would be better because of the auras and the fact that doom has literally the lowest agi gain in the game and has no armour at all but a large HP pool make armour really good on him since armour leverages so much. Maybe a sheepstick, sheep is good on pretty much everyone depends on the game. | ||
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SXGCoil
United States341 Posts
May 18 2013 14:05 GMT
#57257
On May 18 2013 23:01 valheru wrote: Show nested quote + On May 18 2013 22:49 SXGCoil wrote: How would daedulus be on Doom? It gives good damage and a better crit modifier than the alpha wolf. You lose out on the 30% dmg aura but would the centaur stun and the 15% atkspeed aura make up for it? Spending 5k on an item that gives pure damage is probably not worth it on doom. Yeah Daedalus gives a better crit/more damage but putting the 5k to an AC and eating an alpha wolf would be better because of the auras and the fact that doom has literally the lowest agi gain in the game and has no armour at all but a large HP pool make armour really good on him since armour leverages so much. Maybe a sheepstick, sheep is good on pretty much everyone depends on the game. Actually, I think he's tied with Tiny at lowest agi gain at .9. Also, I've been building Vlad's too for the lifesteal. Any good? | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 18 2013 14:09 GMT
#57258
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RuskiPanda
United States2906 Posts
May 18 2013 14:09 GMT
#57259
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
May 18 2013 14:10 GMT
#57260
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