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the`postman
United States1643 Posts
On May 18 2013 13:24 icystorage wrote: if you are gonna go deso build on weaver (assuming it's legit), would you level germinate at all? the hell are you talking about? The whole reason you go deso on weaver is because it is the only orb that works with germinate. | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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Appendix
Sweden979 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Maelstrom bear is in the same vein. In DotA 1 you could either get only Maelstrom procs or only Entangle procs, whereas in DotA 2, they can't proc together, but you can get them both separately. | ||
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the`postman
United States1643 Posts
On May 18 2013 13:36 icystorage wrote: wow i didnt know that at all o.o i thought the germinate orb doesn't stack with other orbs the way it works is your germinate attacks don't apply the deso debuff, but it already has the -armor from your primary attack. So while it can't proc MKB or crit, it does benefit from the -armor. | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
learn something everyday | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
Welcome to the craziness that is Dota mechanics | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
aka the 4 most efficient early game items in the game (aside from PMS, which is meh on weaver) vit booster if needed midgame weaver this transitions very well into any major 4-5k item into a decent lategame, since your midgame combat potential is equal or better than some joke treads->linkins build 3000 gold cheaper, you can go bkb,deso,radiance or whatever at that point and transition smoothly it also has a better laning phase and a better power progression | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 18 2013 13:53 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Does any other orb proc on hit instead of on attack like germinate? That's actually a bug. The second attack releases correctly when the first attack finishes, but Geminate's CD check is supposed to happen when the attack is released. | ||
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Adrian_mx
Mexico1880 Posts
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On May 18 2013 13:19 Mithhaike wrote: I personally value the Spell Block on Weaver just because of how weaver's played. Its the only hero that I feel can make use of the spell block from Linken most effectively. Your right about the poor build up, I totally agree, but I think that the power of Swarm/Germinate/Shukuchi should be able to tide over that build up period easily. Swarm is a very underrated skill that reduces enemy armor significantly if they cannot find an opening to remove the worms on them, thats what I mean by mid-game presence. Your definition of midgame is different from mine. For me, mid game is by game time 6mins-25mins or so. Usually this period is the time where the first big item is secured depending on how well they farmed etc. Weaver with a Linken by the 25mins is no different from another with a BKB at the 25mins. Its still 1 big item...however the linken provides so much more for weaver imo. About the regen, with a linken there's no reason ever for the weaver to go back to base even if/when the weaver is spamming shukuchi. He wont run out of mana, thus can continue pushing/farming. For me, i find that a weaver after the linken, even just getting a cheap Crystalis gains huge boost in DPS(swarm/germinate) The spellblock on weaver is only useful for split pushing. Weaver isn't even a good split pusher. The stats are AWFUL for weaver as well. You may as well just get a bkb if you really need it. Seriously, can anyone else justify getting a shadowblade and then getting a linkens on top of that? No. Seriously, the stats are so bad, and bkb is much cheaper and better. Anyone who's played weaver will know just how useless the mana regen is. | ||
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RuskiPanda
United States2906 Posts
On May 18 2013 15:00 Itsmedudeman wrote: The spellblock on weaver is only useful for split pushing. Weaver isn't even a good split pusher. The stats are AWFUL for weaver as well. You may as well just get a bkb if you really need it. Seriously, can anyone else justify getting a shadowblade and then getting a linkens on top of that? No. Seriously, the stats are so bad, and bkb is much cheaper and better. Anyone who's played weaver will know just how useless the mana regen is. I don't know why you think weaver is a bad split pusher. Germinate is so good when you're hitting towers and Swarm/Shukuchi makes clearing waves/getting away so easy. | ||
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Bearded Elder29905 Posts
On May 18 2013 14:47 Adrian_mx wrote: Is it just be or is the Greevil courier not updating views? Everything works perfectly for me but its Smeevil not a Greevil  | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On May 18 2013 15:38 RuskiPanda wrote: I don't know why you think weaver is a bad split pusher. Germinate is so good when you're hitting towers and Swarm/Shukuchi makes clearing waves/getting away so easy. Well, not necessarily BAD, but that shouldn't be his main role. In any case, linkens isn't even that good for split pushing. Bkb will do the same except it's actually useful in teamfights and more efficient, and his own skills is enough to survive any 1 man gank while split pushing. Bkb will also save you from 2-3 man ganks a lot better than a linkens will. | ||
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Adrian_mx
Mexico1880 Posts
On May 18 2013 15:43 739 wrote: Everything works perfectly for me but its Smeevil not a Greevil Any fast way to get view counts? | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On May 18 2013 16:03 Itsmedudeman wrote: Well, not necessarily BAD, but that shouldn't be his main role. In any case, linkens isn't even that good for split pushing. Bkb will do the same except it's actually useful in teamfights and more efficient, and his own skills is enough to survive any 1 man gank while split pushing. Bkb will also save you from 2-3 man ganks a lot better than a linkens will. Splitpushing weaver needs radiance to push with any speed anyways Also, weaver escapes from 2-3 man ganks really easily with just linkens, because the initiation stuns are usually the ones blocked, and once thats gone.. Its -very- hard to catch weaver | ||
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wairai
Malaysia1000 Posts
way to pimp games views now :D not that I hate qop | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On May 18 2013 16:09 Shaella wrote: Splitpushing weaver needs radiance to push with any speed anyways Also, weaver escapes from 2-3 man ganks really easily with just linkens, because the initiation stuns are usually the ones blocked, and once thats gone.. Its -very- hard to catch weaver It really isn't hard to gank a weaver with linkens with the right execution and especially when someone has a blink dagger. If you've got a magnus, that's a dead weaver. And you're right, weaver is a very slow split pusher without radiance, but I cannot imagine the type of faceroll game you'd have to have to warrant a purchase like that. | ||
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RuskiPanda
United States2906 Posts
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