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Razor is very good when he can chase down heroes and when he doesnt die. His nuke is extremely good so max it, Link is decent at 1. Unstable current gives bonus movespeed which is nice, I usually skill it above more Link. Both phase and threads are good but phase is much better for gank razor. A casual vit booster is a must. There is boss guide where you go poor mans shield into vanguard that actually works but I wouldent recommend it. However a vanguard is not bad if your getting early kills. The roh will let you stay in the field and 250 gold will make diving towers more pleasent. You need some kind of mana regen, bottle or basi are good but I prefer basi. Use your early advantage to get a yasha. After this drums are a perfect item for razor. Finish up your aquila and then your s&y.
This item progression give you less than ideal lategame items but if you just get a decent start you will ve so far ahead it doesnt matter
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The order in which you acquire your items is very... questionable CCK.
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should be good ^_^
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On April 10 2013 16:49 TheYango wrote: It's actually only possible in DotA 2, because items on CD aren't droppable in DotA 1, and therefore can't be disassembled.
Which sort of makes a strange DotA 2 parity issue if Icefrog decides to do something about it.
That said, I don't think there needs to be anything done about it. Wait, theoretically, could you have brown boots, buy an energy booster, use the arcane boots, dissasemble, sell the energy booster for full price, and keep the brown boots?
Never tried it.
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On April 11 2013 02:17 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 16:49 TheYango wrote: It's actually only possible in DotA 2, because items on CD aren't droppable in DotA 1, and therefore can't be disassembled.
Which sort of makes a strange DotA 2 parity issue if Icefrog decides to do something about it.
That said, I don't think there needs to be anything done about it. Wait, theoretically, could you have brown boots, buy an energy booster, use the arcane boots, dissasemble, sell the energy booster for full price, and keep the brown boots? Never tried it. Any item that is used in some way immediately loses the 10 second full resell time. You will only get 500 gold back from that resale.
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On April 11 2013 02:19 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 02:17 Comeh wrote:On April 10 2013 16:49 TheYango wrote: It's actually only possible in DotA 2, because items on CD aren't droppable in DotA 1, and therefore can't be disassembled.
Which sort of makes a strange DotA 2 parity issue if Icefrog decides to do something about it.
That said, I don't think there needs to be anything done about it. Wait, theoretically, could you have brown boots, buy an energy booster, use the arcane boots, dissasemble, sell the energy booster for full price, and keep the brown boots? Never tried it. Any item that is used in some way immediately loses the 10 second full resell time. You will only get 500 gold back from that resale.
icefrog too smart for these shenanigans.
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The only abuse possible is when you have like 50 mana and buy arcane booster in the side shop to get 75+ and use TP, then sell it back at base
Not tested that thou
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You guys like buying RoH from side shop and getting dat regen only to sell it back before timer?
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On April 11 2013 02:31 crms wrote: You guys like buying RoH from side shop and getting dat regen only to sell it back before timer? Free 45 HP! Worse than armlet toggling abuse!!!!111oneoneone111
Considering you have to be in the shop for that, i don't think it's worth it. Better bring a salve via courier
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On April 11 2013 02:35 Qbek wrote: Considering you have to be in the shop for that, i don't think it's worth it. Better bring a salve via courier Basically if you miss more than 2 creeps waiting for the RoH regen, the Salve would have been better.
One possibility is buying a Cloak or Belt of Giant's Strength to survive a DoT or delayed damage spell, and then selling it after the spell is over.
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I had a support doing that contantly in the lane phase once when I was playing carry. Didn't stack, pull, just harassed in lane and then sat by shop with ring of health/ring of regen depending on his money.
was odd game but i'm pretty sure we won so clearly it's valid strategy.
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On April 11 2013 02:41 crms wrote: I had a support doing that contantly in the lane phase once when I was playing carry. Didn't stack, pull, just harassed in lane and then sat by shop with ring of health/ring of regen depending on his money.
was odd game.
Bahahahaha what the hell. Next level sapport stratique.
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On April 11 2013 02:02 Sn0_Man wrote: The order in which you acquire your items is very... questionable CCK.
I didnt specify the order
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Use your early advantage to get a yasha. After this drums are a perfect item for razor. Finish up your aquila and then your s&y. Looks like an order to me, and a very weird one at that.
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On April 11 2013 03:54 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +Use your early advantage to get a yasha. After this drums are a perfect item for razor. Finish up your aquila and then your s&y. Looks like an order to me, and a very weird one at that. 
Writing on iPhone, its hard enough fighting the swedish autocorrect to think about structure. Also I think ordering items is a bit lacking. Say you are in a lane and just got boots. If you have someone with very high base damage denying alot phaseboots might be a good option. If they harass you a lot a quick roh can be the best. Although I feel that if you want vanguard you should get it early but after phase but after that its down to taste. If you can chase down everyone but your almost on the edge of dieing a bracer before your yasha is probably better, or vice versa.
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I don't think a finished Vanguard is that effective on Razor unless you absolutely need to finish it at this timing and can't afford to wait. Otherwise Vit+Hood has higher overall effectiveness for using your Vit Booster and Ring of Health, and the Hood can be made into Pipe later.
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What the Church of Yango is basically trying to say is, never get Vanguard ever. Only acceptable use is to create it then drop and destroy in protest of the heathens.
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On April 11 2013 04:44 Slardar wrote: What the Church of Yango is basically trying to say is, never get Vanguard ever. Only acceptable use is to create it then drop and destroy in protest of the heathens. Yango is actually one of the few defenders of Vanguard - that it has situational uses, and if you have a vit + Stout and you are hitting a key timing of the game and your next item isn't near finishing, its better to have a vanguard and have a closer fight than it is to have empty money and no completed other item.
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Unless your goal is to become the vangod, in which case you should buy as many vanguards as you can.
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Why would u get Yasha and Drums? They don't stack movement speed bonus? Right?
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