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aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
April 10 2013 22:50 GMT
#51281
stout on melee supports seems kinda dumb unless you are offlaning. if i random a melee support like es/orge i would be starting with boots first for a faster arcane.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 23:00:47
April 10 2013 23:00 GMT
#51282
On April 11 2013 07:50 aintz wrote:
stout on melee supports seems kinda dumb unless you are offlaning. if i random a melee support like es/orge i would be starting with boots first for a faster arcane.


Pardon me for being ignorant, but boots first is definitely not the right buy, even when randomed... I rather just save altogether and wait for the mana booster if you're gonna skimp consumables/wards/courier/branches/etc.
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
April 10 2013 23:02 GMT
#51283
On April 11 2013 06:51 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 06:44 trinxified wrote:
Getting stout, PMS, vanguard on ranged heroes is just a terrible idea IMO.

Although I get at least a stout everytime on almost all melee heroes. Yeah I'm weird like that.

That's not really that weird.

Ranged Vanguard is usually bad but situationally ok.


where's a situation where a ranged vanguard would be situationally superior to mek or drums or even a casual vit booster/hood?
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 23:09:37
April 10 2013 23:06 GMT
#51284
The case where you have, say, Vit+Mek or Vit+Drums, and are on full slots from small items (e.g. Phase Vit Mek Wand Cloak TP or Phase Vit Drums Wand RoH TP) and need to finish something for a fight now, but don't have the money to finish anything else. Winning a fight is worth the cost of finishing a mediocre item.

On April 11 2013 08:00 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 07:50 aintz wrote:
stout on melee supports seems kinda dumb unless you are offlaning. if i random a melee support like es/orge i would be starting with boots first for a faster arcane.


Pardon me for being ignorant, but boots first is definitely not the right buy, even when randomed... I rather just save altogether and wait for the mana booster if you're gonna skimp consumables/wards/courier/branches/etc.

Boots first with random gold is strong on supports with strong roaming ability. If you are confident that you can get a kill with Boots + Smoke + Branches/Consumables, you can get that FB and then use the FB gold to make up the things you would have started with.

It requires some confidence in your ability to make the gank happen and depends a lot on the heroes on both sides in terms of how easy it is to make a kill happen with your lanes/enemy lanes.

If you're just going to buy the Boots and go to lane as normal though, there's no point in having the Boots. You get the Boots to kill people.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
April 10 2013 23:33 GMT
#51285
Loda will be on Live on three shortly. (show just started)

http://www.twitch.tv/OneMoreGameTV
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
April 11 2013 00:13 GMT
#51286
Loda's on now.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 00:27:28
April 11 2013 00:27 GMT
#51287
Does Loda ever not wear a cap.
WriterXiao8~~
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
April 11 2013 00:28 GMT
#51288
On April 11 2013 09:27 Kipsate wrote:
Does Loda ever not wear a cap.


He ALWAYS has a cap on when i've seen him. Stream, lans, interviews, whatever...
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
April 11 2013 00:30 GMT
#51289
On April 11 2013 09:27 Kipsate wrote:
Does Loda ever not wear a cap.

He must be balding or something. Seems like his hair is thin from what I can see.

Or maybe he thinks it looks cool(it doesn't).
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Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
April 11 2013 00:39 GMT
#51290
Fairly certain it's because Loda is going bald
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
April 11 2013 00:41 GMT
#51291
GG Loda agreed with Blizzard/Riot approach.
Oh and Puppey as well..
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 00:44:20
April 11 2013 00:42 GMT
#51292
On April 11 2013 09:41 duoform wrote:
GG Loda agreed with Blizzard/Riot approach.
Oh and Puppey as well..


And do you personally disagree with that?

NTH Being "sponsored" since dreamhack with salaries etc. Interesting. Smells organisation/team rather than just a sponsor.

+ Show Spoiler +
EG
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 00:48:27
April 11 2013 00:44 GMT
#51293
On April 11 2013 09:41 duoform wrote:
GG Loda agreed with Blizzard/Riot approach.
Oh and Puppey as well..

I don't see why a player would disagree with their approach.

Anyway I really like Loda's responses, people should look it up if they missed it.
WriterXiao8~~
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
April 11 2013 00:48 GMT
#51294
Certainly a great interview. Definitely check out the VoD later.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 00:52:59
April 11 2013 00:52 GMT
#51295
I don't, I actually see it a good way for Valve to push out the ticket system even more... although our community (well mostly reddit) thinks its a bad idea.
Either way, Valve ain't doing it. No fucking way...

I really think this League thingy needs to be discussed but I don't know man.
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 00:58:42
April 11 2013 00:58 GMT
#51296
By the pros or here?I think its a large enough of a subject that if you want to make an own thread of it then be my guest. I don't see why players would ever be against it. I just don't think it will happen because its not the way Valve is as a company.
WriterXiao8~~
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
April 11 2013 01:08 GMT
#51297
riot pretty much upped the ante for support of esports from a dev to ludicrous levels. as cool as it is for them to care about their games esports viability it really really puts pressure on every other org and game out there to do the same

im still not comfortable with the idea of a dev completely taking over a scene, paying salary and doing production like riot have done but i can see why. besides riot has infinite money to splash around so i doubt the esports side of things has the slightest effect on their bottom line and unlike valve or blizz, LoL is their ONLY concern.

from a players perspective of course it would be lovely for valve like fairy fucking godmothers to swoop and immediately take care of all the scenes woes but we all know that isn't going to happen in thousand years. the pessimist in me really takes comments like Kuroky's to heart (after ti3 , if there isn't something big, a lot of us will quit) as well as looking at LoL's overwhelming grasp on the both major circuit inclusion and the NA market. Dota is really riding a lot on
a) the numbers coming out of CIS
b) hope that it'll take off in China in a huge way
c) TI3 is gargantuan

still the game isn't out yet (and is progressing at a fucking glacial pace, the price of valve's unquestionable quality) alas, it may as well be, the steam bot has tens of thousands of keys in it.....
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 01:34:05
April 11 2013 01:32 GMT
#51298
On April 11 2013 09:42 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 09:41 duoform wrote:
GG Loda agreed with Blizzard/Riot approach.
Oh and Puppey as well..


And do you personally disagree with that?

NTH Being "sponsored" since dreamhack with salaries etc. Interesting. Smells organisation/team rather than just a sponsor.

+ Show Spoiler +
EG
Even since long before all this Astro headset stuff (2-3 months ago) 2GD said it's something by people from EG but not necessarily EG proper.
Once you Goblak...
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 01:39:11
April 11 2013 01:39 GMT
#51299
On April 11 2013 09:30 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 09:27 Kipsate wrote:
Does Loda ever not wear a cap.

He must be balding or something. Seems like his hair is thin from what I can see.

Or maybe he thinks it looks cool(it doesn't).

Let me remind you that nth entry song for starladder grand final were backstreet boys.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
April 11 2013 01:43 GMT
#51300
On April 11 2013 10:39 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 09:30 TheEmulator wrote:
On April 11 2013 09:27 Kipsate wrote:
Does Loda ever not wear a cap.

He must be balding or something. Seems like his hair is thin from what I can see.

Or maybe he thinks it looks cool(it doesn't).

Let me remind you that nth entry song for starladder grand final were backstreet boys.
Backstreet boys was Fnatic's entrance song. Nth's was Basshunter.
Once you Goblak...
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