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IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
April 09 2013 20:26 GMT
#51181
Congrats on the hammer Yango, it's about time.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
April 09 2013 20:28 GMT
#51182
On April 10 2013 05:22 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 05:19 SKC wrote:
I think Searing Arrows also used to be weird and stack with Skadi. Not sure if that's reproduced in Dota 2

iirc searing arrows is an orb but NOT a buff placer, so a buff placer that isn't an orb (skadi on ranged) stacks.

IIRC, this only works with auto attacks - not when orb walking (thats what someone told me, never tried it out myself)
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 20:36:10
April 09 2013 20:34 GMT
#51183
death coil cooldown buff is actually gigantic >.> Most annoying spell as the self damage proc on the aphotic shield =)) Soulring entering dota actually make abandon incredibly hard to kill as you can just proc it, kill yourself >.> Even easier than bane selfdeny
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 20:44:14
April 09 2013 20:44 GMT
#51184
On April 10 2013 05:34 NB wrote:
death coil cooldown buff is actually gigantic >.> Most annoying spell as the self damage proc on the aphotic shield =)) Soulring entering dota actually make abandon incredibly hard to kill as you can just proc it, kill yourself >.> Even easier than bane selfdeny

I don't know why anyone would want to selfdeny with bane anymore when you can just use the invuln to dodge the damage to begin with and wake yourself up.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
April 09 2013 20:47 GMT
#51185
Pudge self-deny is still the easiest IMHO.
>Soul ring to 1 hp
>Rot
>Ded instantly
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
April 09 2013 20:49 GMT
#51186
I would claim that not buying a soul ring and dying would be more effective than buying one and suiciding.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
April 09 2013 21:57 GMT
#51187
On April 10 2013 05:28 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 05:22 PrinceXizor wrote:
On April 10 2013 05:19 SKC wrote:
I think Searing Arrows also used to be weird and stack with Skadi. Not sure if that's reproduced in Dota 2

iirc searing arrows is an orb but NOT a buff placer, so a buff placer that isn't an orb (skadi on ranged) stacks.

IIRC, this only works with auto attacks - not when orb walking (thats what someone told me, never tried it out myself)

actually, skadi/searing arrows/lifesteal only works when you orb walk, not when you auto attack. And all three can stacks.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 22:12:05
April 09 2013 22:06 GMT
#51188
On April 10 2013 06:57 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 05:28 Comeh wrote:
On April 10 2013 05:22 PrinceXizor wrote:
On April 10 2013 05:19 SKC wrote:
I think Searing Arrows also used to be weird and stack with Skadi. Not sure if that's reproduced in Dota 2

iirc searing arrows is an orb but NOT a buff placer, so a buff placer that isn't an orb (skadi on ranged) stacks.

IIRC, this only works with auto attacks - not when orb walking (thats what someone told me, never tried it out myself)

actually, skadi/searing arrows/lifesteal only works when you orb walk, not when you auto attack. And all three can stacks.

No, he is right. I actually made a game to test this just now. Searing Arrows and Skadi stack if you set it to auto-cast, but Skadi doesn't apply if you manually use the skill.

I remembered it being weird, and it looks like they reproduced the behavior in Dota 2.

I'm also not sure about it stacking with Lifesteal, forgot to test it, but from what I remember it doesn't stack as well. They were both Orb Effects, even if they weren't Buff Placers.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 22:30:59
April 09 2013 22:30 GMT
#51189
Lifesteal and Searing Arrows were either-or, not both (both are non-buff placer orbs). The lifesteal overrode manual-cast Searing Arrows, but was overridden by autocast Searing Arrows.

DotA 2 Wiki agrees with SKC:
Searing Arrows will stack with Eye of Skadi if it is Auto-Cast, but not if it is manually cast.
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
April 09 2013 22:54 GMT
#51190
On slark, I'm debating if it's better to take stats than the last 3 levels of essence shift. Sure stealing agility for 120 seconds is nice but the main reason to take the skill is the 19/13 hp + mana burn per hit. It gives slark what he desperately needs, stats, instead of a fairly pointless increase in steal duration.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
April 09 2013 23:00 GMT
#51191
On April 10 2013 07:54 Nevuk wrote:
On slark, I'm debating if it's better to take stats than the last 3 levels of essence shift. Sure stealing agility for 120 seconds is nice but the main reason to take the skill is the 19/13 hp + mana burn per hit. It gives slark what he desperately needs, stats, instead of a fairly pointless increase in steal duration.

I think you need at least rank 2 of it. But other than that yeah should probably just take stats
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 09 2013 23:07 GMT
#51192
If you win a fight with slark, you spend the next little while running around with something like 60 extra agi. I'd rather that last for a good 2 minutes (allowing you to utilize it in another fight if you force it) than for a good 30 seconds (long enough to... run back to base), but to each their own.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10950 Posts
April 09 2013 23:07 GMT
#51193
if your talking about slark..

I just had a game... me jug with veno support.. sadly slark wasn't dumb so "no kills"...

so veno leaves me and we get a 1on1 lane and we both get all the farm we want... i get a bf and he gets a skadi... and i felt SO weak.. not "yeah, i got bf first weak" but.. "fucking lvl 2 omnislash in your face i barel put a dent intoyouwtfisrong" weak....


wtf! fuck slark
Makenshi
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden2105 Posts
April 09 2013 23:28 GMT
#51194
on slark, chuan recently did an interview with gg i think and was asked what the next big hero/carry to enter the metagame would be and he said slark, was that a troll answer or serious?
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
April 09 2013 23:55 GMT
#51195
On April 10 2013 08:07 Velr wrote:
if your talking about slark..

I just had a game... me jug with veno support.. sadly slark wasn't dumb so "no kills"...

so veno leaves me and we get a 1on1 lane and we both get all the farm we want... i get a bf and he gets a skadi... and i felt SO weak.. not "yeah, i got bf first weak" but.. "fucking lvl 2 omnislash in your face i barel put a dent intoyouwtfisrong" weak....


wtf! fuck slark



Probably "I farmed a bfury in the same time slark farmed a skadi" weak.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 10 2013 00:27 GMT
#51196
well i mean slark suffers from bloodseeker syndrome pretty badly, just tp out of leash and his burst
at least until he gets mask of madness basher then u lost
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
April 10 2013 00:28 GMT
#51197
On April 10 2013 09:27 FinestHour wrote:
well i mean slark suffers from bloodseeker syndrome pretty badly, just tp out of leash and his burst
at least until he gets mask of madness basher then u lost

but slark isn't really designed to solo kill.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
April 10 2013 00:31 GMT
#51198
On April 10 2013 09:28 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 09:27 FinestHour wrote:
well i mean slark suffers from bloodseeker syndrome pretty badly, just tp out of leash and his burst
at least until he gets mask of madness basher then u lost

but slark isn't really designed to solo kill.

Well, neither is bloodseeker. But don't tell pubs that.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 10 2013 00:32 GMT
#51199
On April 10 2013 09:28 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 09:27 FinestHour wrote:
well i mean slark suffers from bloodseeker syndrome pretty badly, just tp out of leash and his burst
at least until he gets mask of madness basher then u lost

but slark isn't really designed to solo kill.


huh
solo killing is like the only thing slark can do properly with items
what exactly does he do in a 5v5 when the other team is prepared
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
April 10 2013 00:45 GMT
#51200
Hmm. Teamliquid vs Dig... I actually have no idea who to bet on.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
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