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Kammalleri
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada613 Posts
April 06 2013 10:33 GMT
#50761
What happened to D2L? Wasnt playoff suppose to start like a month ago? or was it just a league and then it ended and noone cared cause some of the last few games just didnt matter?
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
April 06 2013 10:35 GMT
#50762
On April 06 2013 19:15 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 18:09 dfs wrote:
There is literally only one reason to do this - if you picked offlane rubik/pudge so you just leave the lane empy and farm forest.
That's why from time to time someone does a dire midcamp cliff farm with Magnus. At least Empire did.
Why the hell would you pick that is another question.

How does that work with magnus though? You skewer to cliff and shockwave down or what? doesn't sound too doable and it's not like he can tank it when just using empower

You can autoattack the creeps but they can't attack you & the camp still respawn, I've seen one slark do this, it's gimmicky, gives low gold/xp.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
April 06 2013 10:39 GMT
#50763
You can do it "okay" with Furion, example being if you're radiant you can pop into dire on that ledge and relatively safely farm dire camp aswell.
But depends on your clear time of radiant jungle (or if you have teammates clearing radiant jungle, i guess).

i don't really care for it that much myself
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
April 06 2013 10:40 GMT
#50764
On April 06 2013 19:33 Kammalleri wrote:
What happened to D2L? Wasnt playoff suppose to start like a month ago? or was it just a league and then it ended and noone cared cause some of the last few games just didnt matter?

The finals should be April 9th and 10th, it's top 4 teams of the groupstage: Dignitas, Empire, Fnatic, TL. sorurce: http://d2l.evilgeniuses.net/News/?id_news=24#.UV_7Rp83KSg
super gg
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
April 06 2013 10:52 GMT
#50765
is steam down?
Autotroph
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom940 Posts
April 06 2013 10:52 GMT
#50766
Steams up for me but getting 'connecting to DoTA network'
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Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
April 06 2013 10:56 GMT
#50767
Same thing for me
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
April 06 2013 15:15 GMT
#50768
Jimmy Ho ‏@DotADeMoN 4m
Team @EvilGeniuses is back - new roles for the team so don't miss out ! gogo tune in http://www.twitch.tv/beyondthesummit @BTSGoDz casting


Interesting to see what will happen.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
April 06 2013 15:35 GMT
#50769
What if with truesight you could see enemy illusions the same way as allied, so you could identify them from the real hero? I think it could be quite an interesting mechanic, and might serve as a pl nerfe to shut the whiners up.
super gg
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
April 06 2013 15:56 GMT
#50770
On April 07 2013 00:35 cecek wrote:
What if with truesight you could see enemy illusions the same way as allied, so you could identify them from the real hero? I think it could be quite an interesting mechanic, and might serve as a pl nerfe to shut the whiners up.

That's interesting indeed, but as this would weaken illusion heroes in general (so for example also ck, carries that regularly build manta such as antimage), you need some kind of compensation if you don't want to nerf illusions in general.
And I don't think anybody wants to see phantom lancer buffed atm, but you could nerf him by inducing this mechanic and for example make manta a cheaper item/shorten cd and /or increase/buff number of illusions generated by ck, manta etc.
So if this is to happen, it won't be anytime soon with dota2 still being work in progress.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
April 06 2013 15:58 GMT
#50771
Lowering the agi gain slightly(to a bit more than it was pre buff) and maybe making the illusions created by illusions last a few seconds less is all that is needed
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
April 06 2013 17:10 GMT
#50772
On April 07 2013 00:58 Qbek wrote:
Lowering the agi gain slightly(to a bit more than it was pre buff) and maybe making the illusions created by illusions last a few seconds less is all that is needed


The only thing needed is an increase on collision size. Nothing else. Hero has a bad WR% in competitive iirc.

And imho Eza is still a bit too good, but we'll see.
Seen as G.ZZZ [COPPER SCUM] on Steam
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-06 17:14:39
April 06 2013 17:12 GMT
#50773
I'm getting the feeling the entire Dota2 reddit is filled with SC2 defects. Every story about Korea or Koreans gets up to the sky no matter how mundane while things like interviews with 'real Dota players' from SL don't really get anywhere.
Once you Goblak...
SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
April 06 2013 17:17 GMT
#50774
On April 07 2013 02:12 teapoted wrote:
I'm getting the feeling the entire Dota2 reddit is filled with SC2 defects. Every story about Korea or Koreans gets up to the sky no matter how mundane while things like interviews with 'real Dota players' from SL don't really get anywhere.


It is also filled with stream watchers. Sing sing-qpad-select is the obvious transition for upvoted content especially with a title that is designed just for click's.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
April 06 2013 17:20 GMT
#50775
On April 06 2013 18:01 Kishin2 wrote:
Has any professional team used the rubick/pudge radiant jungling trick in a match? After messing around with it a bit it seems quite good.

Yes, but they only did it because their normal pulls were blocked
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
April 06 2013 18:31 GMT
#50776
I cannot connect to dota2?
Are the server down?
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
April 06 2013 18:35 GMT
#50777
On April 07 2013 02:12 teapoted wrote:
I'm getting the feeling the entire Dota2 reddit is filled with SC2 defects. Every story about Korea or Koreans gets up to the sky no matter how mundane while things like interviews with 'real Dota players' from SL don't really get anywhere.


idk why ur expecting anything more of reddit/taking it seriously

my link to the gdstudio website (which at the time just was blank white page with "hej") got 700+ comments and 400 upvotes or something

inevitably the most popular content will be what reddit is best at spreading and enjoys consuming the most: images, short videos, news on popular personalities, drama and speculation
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-06 18:53:10
April 06 2013 18:50 GMT
#50778
On April 06 2013 18:19 Kishin2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 18:06 FinestHour wrote:
On April 06 2013 18:01 Kishin2 wrote:
Has any professional team used the rubick/pudge radiant jungling trick in a match? After messing around with it a bit it seems quite good.


pretty sure it was proven that any competent support doing the pull +more neut camps was equal exp and gold

If you did both you'll have more net exp and gold. It's also highly unlikely to get blocked.

4 minutes in, suddenly level 4 rubick/pudge with boots.

Using one lowers the effectiveness of the other because of the timings of the creep waves you have to use to maximize their efficiency (e.g. the normal pull has to wait 30 seconds longer for creep waves because the Rubick pull is using one and you have to wait for the next one), and because both use the Radiant hard camp.

So the slightly higher gold/XP gain isn't worth putting your support in a position where he can't help the lane at all. You may as well just do normal pulling and have the support actually do something during the downtime.

Also remember that you have to use a useless ward on your high ground to give vision, and using up a limited stock of wards like that is actually a significant cost.
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[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
April 06 2013 18:51 GMT
#50779
On April 07 2013 00:58 Qbek wrote:
Lowering the agi gain slightly(to a bit more than it was pre buff) and maybe making the illusions created by illusions last a few seconds less is all that is needed

Wouldn't increasing his collision size though make PL illusions block heroes easier? Isn't that why most illusion heavy heroes (naga and TB) have reduced collision sizes?
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
April 06 2013 18:54 GMT
#50780
On April 07 2013 03:31 Yoshi- wrote:
I cannot connect to dota2?
Are the server down?


I'm in game
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
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