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ViZe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1513 Posts
April 06 2013 05:36 GMT
#50741
Yeah it does. Manta is an extremely legit item on spec because of it
Even if it did not proc on illusions I would still max it over dispersion since dispersion pushes your lane and is not very good until you max it and get a lot of health.

Generally I would max ult dagger then desolate and only take dispersion after dagger and desolate are totally maxed
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 06 2013 05:37 GMT
#50742
On April 06 2013 14:19 DeltaX wrote:
Does desolate buff the damage done by ult illusions or even manta illusions? I never thought it was, but that would make it better, I always ended up maxing dispersion over desolate to stay in lane better and survive ganks.


illusions get ur passives so they are indeed doing the full +65 damage
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
April 06 2013 06:00 GMT
#50743
On April 06 2013 14:19 DeltaX wrote:
Does desolate buff the damage done by ult illusions or even manta illusions? I never thought it was, but that would make it better, I always ended up maxing dispersion over desolate to stay in lane better and survive ganks.

maxing dispersal in lane is a waste, its only 4% more each point, the first level is 10% alone, and the 4% scales better the more survival you have, at the early phases that extra 4% per point isn't super worth it

don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
April 06 2013 06:19 GMT
#50744
Has yango dropped a banhammer on anyone yet?
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 06 2013 06:31 GMT
#50745
Its so annoying playing desolate spec vs SD.... The SD could deal way too much dmg on u and u can't blink like am. But yeah generally desolate is a good skill to have. But no one gives a shit about spectre just like no one care about Medusa.
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
April 06 2013 07:50 GMT
#50746
I feel very strongly about medusa. I want to die every time an ally picks her. They always start with a hatchet and jungle.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
April 06 2013 07:53 GMT
#50747
On April 06 2013 16:50 Nevuk wrote:
I feel very strongly about medusa. I want to die every time an ally picks her. They always start with a hatchet and jungle.

Ancient farming dusa is terrible..
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
April 06 2013 07:55 GMT
#50748
On April 06 2013 16:53 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 16:50 Nevuk wrote:
I feel very strongly about medusa. I want to die every time an ally picks her. They always start with a hatchet and jungle.

Ancient farming dusa is terrible..

Hey, I've only seen it 14/16 games that have had medusa in them. Someone needs to send out a memo.
anonymitylol
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada4477 Posts
April 06 2013 07:56 GMT
#50749
On April 06 2013 16:53 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 16:50 Nevuk wrote:
I feel very strongly about medusa. I want to die every time an ally picks her. They always start with a hatchet and jungle.

Ancient farming dusa is terrible..


Yet it happens more often than not in pubs nowadays :/

Even worse is when the Medusa is on the other team and you know that it's happening, but the rest of your team doesn't want to go and kill her until the 20-minute mark
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
April 06 2013 08:00 GMT
#50750
On April 06 2013 16:56 anonymitylol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 16:53 Shaella wrote:
On April 06 2013 16:50 Nevuk wrote:
I feel very strongly about medusa. I want to die every time an ally picks her. They always start with a hatchet and jungle.

Ancient farming dusa is terrible..


Yet it happens more often than not in pubs nowadays :/

Even worse is when the Medusa is on the other team and you know that it's happening, but the rest of your team doesn't want to go and kill her until the 20-minute mark

Not like she'll have any items by then anyways
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
April 06 2013 08:15 GMT
#50751
midas by 7 minutes or so (at least I think thats what it was in the video) is not bad by any means if she rotates to jungle after that.
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
April 06 2013 08:18 GMT
#50752
ye and just 40 more minutes of farming after that and she becomes usefull !
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
April 06 2013 08:24 GMT
#50753
On April 06 2013 17:18 cilinder007 wrote:
ye and just 40 more minutes of farming after that and she becomes usefull !

Well that goes without saying for any Medusa.
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TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
April 06 2013 08:46 GMT
#50754
Haven't seen a single medusa for the last 2 months
Cackle™
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
April 06 2013 09:01 GMT
#50755
Has any professional team used the rubick/pudge radiant jungling trick in a match? After messing around with it a bit it seems quite good.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
April 06 2013 09:05 GMT
#50756
On April 06 2013 18:01 Kishin2 wrote:
Has any professional team used the rubick/pudge radiant jungling trick in a match? After messing around with it a bit it seems quite good.

I saw someone use the rubick pull once
it was cute
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 06 2013 09:06 GMT
#50757
On April 06 2013 18:01 Kishin2 wrote:
Has any professional team used the rubick/pudge radiant jungling trick in a match? After messing around with it a bit it seems quite good.


pretty sure it was proven that any competent support doing the pull +more neut camps was equal exp and gold
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-06 09:10:50
April 06 2013 09:09 GMT
#50758
There is literally only one reason to do this - if you picked offlane rubik/pudge so you just leave the lane empy and farm forest.
That's why from time to time someone does a dire midcamp cliff farm with Magnus. At least Empire did.
Why the hell would you pick that is another question.
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Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-06 09:24:43
April 06 2013 09:19 GMT
#50759
On April 06 2013 18:06 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 18:01 Kishin2 wrote:
Has any professional team used the rubick/pudge radiant jungling trick in a match? After messing around with it a bit it seems quite good.


pretty sure it was proven that any competent support doing the pull +more neut camps was equal exp and gold

If you did both you'll have more net exp and gold. It's also highly unlikely to get blocked.

4 minutes in, suddenly level 4 rubick/pudge with boots.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
April 06 2013 10:15 GMT
#50760
On April 06 2013 18:09 dfs wrote:
There is literally only one reason to do this - if you picked offlane rubik/pudge so you just leave the lane empy and farm forest.
That's why from time to time someone does a dire midcamp cliff farm with Magnus. At least Empire did.
Why the hell would you pick that is another question.

How does that work with magnus though? You skewer to cliff and shockwave down or what? doesn't sound too doable and it's not like he can tank it when just using empower
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