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On April 06 2013 02:58 TheYango wrote: Yes, thats right.
EDIT: The other thing to keep in mind with Dagger is that while 200 damage is low, you're only looking at the usefulness of the *final rank*. 50 damage + increased slow % per rank is actually pretty normal when it comes to AoE nukes. It's just that the rank 1 damage of Dagger is much lower than many other AoE nukes (rank 1 Dagger is only 50 damage, many other AoE nukes start with 90-150 rank 1 damage). I'm bored, and reading things about leaving Haunt on Level 1 or level 2, but to me it seems like an extra 1 / 2 points in stats really isn't worth skipping extra 1 - 3 attacks on your haunt to every hero on the board.
Am I right about this?
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Dispersion also doesn't scale that well with ranks while her other spells scale a bit better. One rank in dispersion seems reasonable while maxing other two. Only if you really being pressured should you think if putting more points in dispersion. You'll naturally have the points there when you get more hp items later in the game.
On April 06 2013 03:04 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 02:58 TheYango wrote: Yes, thats right.
EDIT: The other thing to keep in mind with Dagger is that while 200 damage is low, you're only looking at the usefulness of the *final rank*. 50 damage + increased slow % per rank is actually pretty normal when it comes to AoE nukes. It's just that the rank 1 damage of Dagger is much lower than many other AoE nukes (rank 1 Dagger is only 50 damage, many other AoE nukes start with 90-150 rank 1 damage). I'm bored, and reading things about leaving Haunt on Level 1 or level 2, but to me it seems like an extra 1 / 2 points in stats really isn't worth skipping extra 1 - 3 attacks on your haunt to every hero on the board. Am I right about this?
They do full desolate damage so I think so but then again how realistic is it that they get the desolate damage in that last second of haunt.
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The real benefit of the longer Haunt duration is having more time to choose an appropriate spot to enter the fight.
Having 5 seconds to choose and 7 seconds to choose can affect your positioning a lot.
Someone who thinks those 2 ranks aren't worth it are probably jumping into the fight haphazardly and not making use of the full 5/6/7 seconds to choose their point of entry.
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I think you can delay the 2nd point in haunt in favor of getting other skills maxed up, but there's no reason you shouldn't have haunt completely maxed at 16
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What's the deal here, just spent 30min to get into a game because it took forever to "find a server". Have they delivered to many keys or is this my problem somehow?
edit: should probably say i queue EU.
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On April 06 2013 03:44 Noak wrote: What's the deal here, just spent 30min to get into a game because it took forever to "find a server". Have they delivered to many keys or is this my problem somehow?
edit: should probably say i queue EU. Gabe's water-ski is powered on the valve servers.
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Korok needs to stream more. Funniest stream ever
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On April 06 2013 04:25 Skullflower wrote: Korok needs to stream more. Funniest stream ever
He needs more viewers, he actually plays well when he streams, good person to learn some builds and tactics from for those who want an educational stream.
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no patch? and not a single word from Valve (?). There are ppl whose entire life purpose is waiting for Dota 2 patches...
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On April 06 2013 06:01 HandA711 wrote: no patch? and not a single word from Valve (?). There are ppl whose entire life purpose is waiting for Dota 2 patches... Try playing the game we have 
(no patch this week, or likely next week either).
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On April 06 2013 06:01 HandA711 wrote: no patch? and not a single word from Valve (?). There are ppl whose entire life purpose is waiting for Dota 2 patches...
me and erasme life purpose is to see evil geniuses win ti3 with jimmy ho leading the way we cant have everything we want
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Wow... Just went dagon blink eblade orchid on nature's prophet. Too much fun.
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dagon orchid on anyone is too much fun. Highly recommend it on Clinkz. Its like dagon SA, but more hilarious.
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On the spec stuff, I've lost track of the number of times I've saved myself by daggering into the trees. Rank 1 dagger is essential. It's infinitely better than dispersion on the defensive and lets you be aggressive.
Desolate's attractive, but as someone said, even at lv4 you need to basically get in an extra hit for each level of dagger that you're missing. Coincidentally, landing successive hits becomes much harder with each level of dagger that you're missing as well.
Dispersion's first rank scales a lot better than the others, so it's nice to take a point in it early if there's a lot of harass.
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http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=406462
come to my blog, point around and laugh >.>
On April 06 2013 06:04 FinestHour wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2013 06:01 HandA711 wrote: no patch? and not a single word from Valve (?). There are ppl whose entire life purpose is waiting for Dota 2 patches... me and erasme life purpose is to see evil geniuses win ti3 with jimmy ho leading the way we cant have everything we want
Hmm, i dont think they gona kick EGM to have Demon.... if you know what i mean
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On April 06 2013 06:15 sinani206 wrote: Wow... Just went dagon blink eblade orchid on nature's prophet. Too much fun. dagon eblade refresher is the way
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On April 06 2013 06:01 HandA711 wrote: no patch? and not a single word from Valve (?). There are ppl whose entire life purpose is waiting for Dota 2 patches...
Valve is on vacation
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About Spec:
Dagger-Disp/Deso-Dagger-Deso/Disp-Dagger-Ult-Max Deso-Max disp-Max ult
I usually delay lvl 2 ulti until lvl 14, as maxing dispersion is usually more worth it. It depends but i usually prefer to max dispersion first, as it scale deceptively (dispersion actually increase your HP by 11%/16%/22%/28%) and not as badly as it may looks.
Also if you can get it before 30 min, i'd get radi on her every time. Max haunt + Radi + Deso is a shit load of damage and win teamfights by itself. Even if you aren't the best at 1vs1 situations and whatsnot, your ulti it's still like a zeus ulti on steroid that prevent blinks for 10 seconds and give you perfect map vision for 7 seconds.
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I used to max dagger first but I tried max desolate 1st with phase boots, orb of venom, drum. Skilling dagger, dispersion/desolate, dagger, dispersion/desolate, & then maxing desolate because someone suggested it on a random post on TL. It completely changed my vision of spectre, she really starts hurting way earlier. It takes into account the fact that you're far from having guarantted farm in pubs.
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