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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
February 06 2013 22:35 GMT
#42201
he will be added in tournament version next week, so tomorrow will be the same :p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 06 2013 22:35 GMT
#42202
While I think the language option is reasonable, I don't really see it doing too much in practice. People will still get a lot of games where people don't communicate (simply because they don't communicate, nothing to do with language), and people will still get games with speakers of whatever their least favourite language is, either because of people who are multilingual, but have a preferred language, and because of people who pick extra languages for faster queue times.

For example, if I picked Russian and English as my languages, I doubt the game will start with a big sign saying "ENGLISH", or "RUSSIAN", so I will just speak whichever of the two I want to in-game, which might annoy people who were only queued for English, if I were to speak Russian. The only real solution to that, is to have people only able to pick one language, in which case probably 90% of people will pick English regardless of their actual language because it would have the fastest queue times.

So, I don't see the language option really doing anything besides providing another reason for people to QQ about other languages being spoken in their games.
you gotta dance
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
February 06 2013 22:36 GMT
#42203
On February 07 2013 07:25 Numy wrote:
Looks like I was wrong, silencer in CM. Dam hate that clown.

Well, a new first ban always for me.

- Orb of Venom now has the same stacking behavior with Lifesteal that Eye of Skadi does.

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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
February 06 2013 22:37 GMT
#42204
On February 07 2013 07:19 Klonere wrote:
whats the lol equivalent of atos

i need to know

Exhaust.

A lot of things that are active items in DotA are summoners in League (Blink, RoA, Mek, Arcanes, TP scroll, Midas. Urn/BKB kind of). Obviously they're all slightly different but the concepts stay similar, that's usually a good way to introduce DotA items to League guys. Also it gets them all wet when you tell them about all the League ultimates which are similar to normal DotA skills. :>
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 22:40:30
February 06 2013 22:37 GMT
#42205
Silenecer isn't in tournament version, only in latest.

I also don't really know if having a language option where you can select multiple languages (As is implied in the patch notes) will really solve anything. I mean these people already queue on servers far away from where they live, why would they not select multiple languages as well.

Anyway, team matchmaking is cool. Should increase the amount of teams getting into dota and serve as good practice for mid-tier teams.
Once you Goblak...
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 22:41:25
February 06 2013 22:39 GMT
#42206
On February 07 2013 07:35 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
While I think the language option is reasonable, I don't really see it doing too much in practice. People will still get a lot of games where people don't communicate (simply because they don't communicate, nothing to do with language), and people will still get games with speakers of whatever their least favourite language is, either because of people who are multilingual, but have a preferred language, and because of people who pick extra languages for faster queue times.

For example, if I picked Russian and English as my languages, I doubt the game will start with a big sign saying "ENGLISH", or "RUSSIAN", so I will just speak whichever of the two I want to in-game, which might annoy people who were only queued for English, if I were to speak Russian. The only real solution to that, is to have people only able to pick one language, in which case probably 90% of people will pick English regardless of their actual language because it would have the fastest queue times.

So, I don't see the language option really doing anything besides providing another reason for people to QQ about other languages being spoken in their games.

Wait what. This is awkward. I loved playing with Koreans and Russians in BW and I found some great people this way. Like, I don't want to ruin someones game who queued for Russian only but I also don't want to miss the people who technically speak enough english for gaming but wouldn't call themselves fluent enough to queue for it.

T_T

Edit: I want an option called "I just wanna play some good fun DotA"
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
February 06 2013 22:40 GMT
#42207
"- Gyrocopter: Fixed Call Down first and second impact slow values being swapped"
Lol, that was quite a buff to the hero! The first rocket is supposed to slow for just 20% and the second for 50%. The fact that it was the other way around is a huge deal!
super gg
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 06 2013 22:43 GMT
#42208
On February 07 2013 07:39 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 07:35 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
While I think the language option is reasonable, I don't really see it doing too much in practice. People will still get a lot of games where people don't communicate (simply because they don't communicate, nothing to do with language), and people will still get games with speakers of whatever their least favourite language is, either because of people who are multilingual, but have a preferred language, and because of people who pick extra languages for faster queue times.

For example, if I picked Russian and English as my languages, I doubt the game will start with a big sign saying "ENGLISH", or "RUSSIAN", so I will just speak whichever of the two I want to in-game, which might annoy people who were only queued for English, if I were to speak Russian. The only real solution to that, is to have people only able to pick one language, in which case probably 90% of people will pick English regardless of their actual language because it would have the fastest queue times.

So, I don't see the language option really doing anything besides providing another reason for people to QQ about other languages being spoken in their games.

Wait what. This is awkward. I loved playing with Koreans and Russians in BW and I found some great people this way. Like, I don't want to ruin someones game who queued for Russian only but I also don't want to miss the people who technically speak enough english for gaming but wouldn't call themselves fluent enough to queue for it.

T_T

Edit: I want an option called "I just wanna play some good fun DotA"

Well, I don't think you have to worry too much :p

Most people with basic fluency will probably check off English, as well as people who just want faster queue times. Also, there's technically nothing stopping you from checking off Russian or Korean as one of your languages, haha.

I'm guessing most people will lie about their fluency, or pick multiple languages. if you can only pick one language, everyone's just going to pick whichever the most popular is anyways.
you gotta dance
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
February 06 2013 22:44 GMT
#42209
omg team ladder! finally!

WTB team. :E

http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
February 06 2013 22:45 GMT
#42210
Although I guess Valve could be really clever with the language match-making and try to match people with 'only' english match-make with people who only have it checked as well. And if you have Russian/English it'll try to find people with both checked as well.
Once you Goblak...
RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
February 06 2013 22:46 GMT
#42211
Any idea of what to do against Batrider mid as Tinker?
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
February 06 2013 22:48 GMT
#42212
Stack and level up MoM. Just don't die I guess..
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 22:48:42
February 06 2013 22:48 GMT
#42213
On February 07 2013 07:46 RageBot wrote:
Any idea of what to do against Batrider mid as Tinker?


Cry like a little girl while he jizzs on you. Oh and get a magic wand. Just get levels and farm ancients or jungle etc. Don't try contest lane unless you have help
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
February 06 2013 22:49 GMT
#42214
Added Language setting for Matchmaking!

sweet mother of mercy
Cackle™
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
February 06 2013 22:51 GMT
#42215
On February 07 2013 07:48 Numy wrote:
Cry like a little girl while he jizzs on you. Oh and get a magic wand.

Out of context, this sounds so wrong.
super gg
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
February 06 2013 22:51 GMT
#42216
On February 07 2013 07:46 RageBot wrote:
Any idea of what to do against Batrider mid as Tinker?

Lose?

March build is probably a must over maxing laser/rocket. Beating bat mid with tinker is very unlikely, you're looking to break even or at the least just farm your basic items without dying a billion times.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
February 06 2013 22:51 GMT
#42217
On February 07 2013 07:43 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 07:39 r.Evo wrote:
On February 07 2013 07:35 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
While I think the language option is reasonable, I don't really see it doing too much in practice. People will still get a lot of games where people don't communicate (simply because they don't communicate, nothing to do with language), and people will still get games with speakers of whatever their least favourite language is, either because of people who are multilingual, but have a preferred language, and because of people who pick extra languages for faster queue times.

For example, if I picked Russian and English as my languages, I doubt the game will start with a big sign saying "ENGLISH", or "RUSSIAN", so I will just speak whichever of the two I want to in-game, which might annoy people who were only queued for English, if I were to speak Russian. The only real solution to that, is to have people only able to pick one language, in which case probably 90% of people will pick English regardless of their actual language because it would have the fastest queue times.

So, I don't see the language option really doing anything besides providing another reason for people to QQ about other languages being spoken in their games.

Wait what. This is awkward. I loved playing with Koreans and Russians in BW and I found some great people this way. Like, I don't want to ruin someones game who queued for Russian only but I also don't want to miss the people who technically speak enough english for gaming but wouldn't call themselves fluent enough to queue for it.

T_T

Edit: I want an option called "I just wanna play some good fun DotA"

Well, I don't think you have to worry too much :p

Most people with basic fluency will probably check off English, as well as people who just want faster queue times. Also, there's technically nothing stopping you from checking off Russian or Korean as one of your languages, haha.

I'm guessing most people will lie about their fluency, or pick multiple languages. if you can only pick one language, everyone's just going to pick whichever the most popular is anyways.

Oh, well. I guess you're rite. Thanks to dfg (dfs?) from GD here my Russian is top notch enough for some dota anyway.

On February 07 2013 07:44 crms wrote:
omg team ladder! finally!

WTB team. :E


WTB +1-2 nerds for super srs dota business, late EU / early US times.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 22:55:27
February 06 2013 22:53 GMT
#42218
On February 07 2013 07:44 crms wrote:
omg team ladder! finally!

WTB team. :E


I play CM games erryday and usually need 1-2 people in US around 7-8pm until 12pm-1am EST if you wanna play

...I've settled with playing with some really bad people at times, so im open.

Sidenote: Can silencer beat bat mid?
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 06 2013 22:54 GMT
#42219
On February 07 2013 07:45 teapoted wrote:
Although I guess Valve could be really clever with the language match-making and try to match people with 'only' english match-make with people who only have it checked as well. And if you have Russian/English it'll try to find people with both checked as well.

Yeah, they could, but then i don't really get the point of it, because then I could just check off one or the other and get faster queue times, since there are probably more "pure" English speakers than there are Russian/English bilingual speakers. So, this reduces to the case of everyone picking one language, in which case, everyone will still play together anyways.

The point of being able to pick multiple languages, is that if I speak English/French, then I can play in either English games, or French games, and the matchmaker can queue me into either of them. That's what I think Valve's aiming for, with the hope that people will be truthful in order to make the game experience better by not having language barriers.

The language option will maybe help a little bit for some of the major languages, but there will still be a lot of crossover in my opinion, and people who speak smaller languages in terms of numbers of players will check off other languages for better queue times.
you gotta dance
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
February 06 2013 22:56 GMT
#42220
I highly doubt the English match-making would have more players than the Russian during Russian peak times on EU servers.

I think single selection would work.

We'll have to see though, there's no way to 'fix' the problem and still keep global play. But however this is implemented should reduce some of it.
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