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DR.Ham
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands621 Posts
February 01 2013 10:43 GMT
#41141
On February 01 2013 19:40 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 19:17 Firebolt145 wrote:
On February 01 2013 19:12 DR.Ham wrote:
So, does anyone have any opinions on the changed hero performance ratings?

They seem more accurate to me, heroes which I am terrible at no longer appear as my highest rated, and heroes which I feel like I play well have much higher ratings now.

I would think the ability to sort the various heroes by performance, number of win/losses and name would be useful instead of the seemingly random order that they are currently sorted by.


Well, suddenly my best heroes are Spectre, Sniper, Brewmaster, Syllabear and Necrolyte.

That doesn't seem right to me.


It says it is based on relative performance. My top heroes are inflated because I am so bad at morphling that it is easy to be good at everyone else.


I understood that to mean that they compare your performance with one hero against other players at you skill level and rate accordingly, that being the relative performance rather than your relative performance between the heroes you play.

I could be wrong though.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 01 2013 10:44 GMT
#41142
The new hero performance meter makes a lot more sense.

For some reason, the game still thinks I'm good at Disruptor, though.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 10:45:00
February 01 2013 10:44 GMT
#41143
That is how it worked before, but they said they changed it so ^_^

On February 01 2013 19:44 TheYango wrote:
The new hero performance meter makes a lot more sense.

For some reason, the game still thinks I'm good at Disruptor, though.


Your disruptor is definitely one of your better heroes.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
February 01 2013 10:51 GMT
#41144
On February 01 2013 19:37 Nilrem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 19:35 Firebolt145 wrote:
On February 01 2013 19:33 TheKefka wrote:
wtf am I downloading,a fucking expansion ?

Apparently they completely reorganised their files to drastically reduce load times in general and make everything more efficient. Unfortunately you have to download a library for it though.


I was just about to check my hero stats (to see if any changed) and the download started, was so confused. Alas, that explains why it is taking so long.

Oh and fire, you be getting close to 10k post. Better make the big 10k a good one!

I'm probably just going to pull a flamewheel

for reference: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371383
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
February 01 2013 10:59 GMT
#41145
The performance bars seem to be only related to winrate. All heroes with 50% winrate have 5.5 bars for example
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
February 01 2013 11:00 GMT
#41146
On February 01 2013 19:44 TheYango wrote:
The new hero performance meter makes a lot more sense.

For some reason, the game still thinks I'm good at Disruptor, though.

hi5 I haz 9 bars on disruptor
Cackle™
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 11:03:01
February 01 2013 11:01 GMT
#41147
On February 01 2013 19:51 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 19:37 Nilrem wrote:
On February 01 2013 19:35 Firebolt145 wrote:
On February 01 2013 19:33 TheKefka wrote:
wtf am I downloading,a fucking expansion ?

Apparently they completely reorganised their files to drastically reduce load times in general and make everything more efficient. Unfortunately you have to download a library for it though.


I was just about to check my hero stats (to see if any changed) and the download started, was so confused. Alas, that explains why it is taking so long.

Oh and fire, you be getting close to 10k post. Better make the big 10k a good one!

I'm probably just going to pull a flamewheel

for reference: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371383


Good luck then :-) Better be something amazing! So trollish or witty or, well just something to be remembered. I know,although not a huge deal, I reached my first 1k and I felt quite a bit of pressure to make an epic post. Sadly I failed because although it was made in such a way that people would comment, it got moved to "blog" which pretty much killed my thread. So my 1k was a failure, so I look forward to my 5k then.

62% on Dota 2 download... my god this is taking forever and although my internet sucks, it is nearly 1mb/s
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
February 01 2013 11:04 GMT
#41148
I dunno, I've never been one to be sentimental about random milestones.
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Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
February 01 2013 11:10 GMT
#41149
On February 01 2013 20:04 Firebolt145 wrote:
I dunno, I've never been one to be sentimental about random milestones.


Better be, or it will haunt you for the rest of your life! It is presumably the single greatest accomplishment in your life to reach that 10k milestone.

Oh a more topic related comment, I am just now catching up on Defense season 3... been busy with studying and man, so many matches to go through.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
February 01 2013 11:18 GMT
#41150
On February 01 2013 19:35 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 19:12 DR.Ham wrote:
So, does anyone have any opinions on the changed hero performance ratings?

They seem more accurate to me, heroes which I am terrible at no longer appear as my highest rated, and heroes which I feel like I play well have much higher ratings now.

I would think the ability to sort the various heroes by performance, number of win/losses and name would be useful instead of the seemingly random order that they are currently sorted by.



10 bars for Luna, PL and Death Prophet

I approve

10 heroes with 10 bars.

I approve, too!
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
February 01 2013 11:28 GMT
#41151
Ah these make a lot more sense. I have max Nyx/lycan, my two best heros. Before it said my nyx was below average.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
February 01 2013 11:30 GMT
#41152
On February 01 2013 20:18 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 19:35 DoNotDisturb wrote:
On February 01 2013 19:12 DR.Ham wrote:
So, does anyone have any opinions on the changed hero performance ratings?

They seem more accurate to me, heroes which I am terrible at no longer appear as my highest rated, and heroes which I feel like I play well have much higher ratings now.

I would think the ability to sort the various heroes by performance, number of win/losses and name would be useful instead of the seemingly random order that they are currently sorted by.



10 bars for Luna, PL and Death Prophet

I approve

10 heroes with 10 bars.

I approve, too!


Wow... they changed the stats so much. Before the change, I did not have any maxed out. I look at my stats since the change and I have 12 heroes with 10 bars.

Lycan, DP, BS, Kunkka, SB, SF, Luna, Spectre, Tiny, Naga, Disruptor, and SK (Axe and kotl are like a cm away from 10 as well).

It sort of feels like they broke the system, I do not think mine should be 10.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
ZerG~LegenD
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 11:41:24
February 01 2013 11:39 GMT
#41153
The new system relates your performance with one hero to your performance with other heroes. The old system compared your performance with one hero to other people's performance with the same hero. This becomes really obvious on some heroes, like Dark Seer who has been top tier material for ages.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
February 01 2013 11:43 GMT
#41154
On February 01 2013 20:39 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
The new system relates your performance with one hero to your performance with other heroes. The old system compared your performance with one hero to other people's performance with the same hero. This becomes really obvious on some heroes, like Dark Seer who has been top tier material for ages.


If there is no objective comparison, does that not mean at least one hero will be 10? Since for there to be a comparison, there needs to be a "top" to know where the others should be. I do not know though, just seems weird to me.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
ZerG~LegenD
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden1179 Posts
February 01 2013 11:45 GMT
#41155
On February 01 2013 20:43 Nilrem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 20:39 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
The new system relates your performance with one hero to your performance with other heroes. The old system compared your performance with one hero to other people's performance with the same hero. This becomes really obvious on some heroes, like Dark Seer who has been top tier material for ages.


If there is no objective comparison, does that not mean at least one hero will be 10? Since for there to be a comparison, there needs to be a "top" to know where the others should be. I do not know though, just seems weird to me.

Everyone I knows has ten bars on at least one hero and it seems reasonable that it would be that way.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
February 01 2013 12:00 GMT
#41156
On February 01 2013 20:45 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 20:43 Nilrem wrote:
On February 01 2013 20:39 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
The new system relates your performance with one hero to your performance with other heroes. The old system compared your performance with one hero to other people's performance with the same hero. This becomes really obvious on some heroes, like Dark Seer who has been top tier material for ages.


If there is no objective comparison, does that not mean at least one hero will be 10? Since for there to be a comparison, there needs to be a "top" to know where the others should be. I do not know though, just seems weird to me.

Everyone I knows has ten bars on at least one hero and it seems reasonable that it would be that way.


On one of my accounts, I played only Meepo and he is 5. Granted, it is only a single hero there so maybe if there is more than one, than it will become 10. But I do not know, it requires a bit of testing.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 12:07:20
February 01 2013 12:04 GMT
#41157
On February 01 2013 20:45 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 20:43 Nilrem wrote:
On February 01 2013 20:39 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
The new system relates your performance with one hero to your performance with other heroes. The old system compared your performance with one hero to other people's performance with the same hero. This becomes really obvious on some heroes, like Dark Seer who has been top tier material for ages.


If there is no objective comparison, does that not mean at least one hero will be 10? Since for there to be a comparison, there needs to be a "top" to know where the others should be. I do not know though, just seems weird to me.

Everyone I knows has ten bars on at least one hero and it seems reasonable that it would be that way.

Looks to me like it's based on winrate. All heroes with >=75% have 10 bars for me.

Edit: Yeah, definitely only winrate, doesn't matter what hero, same winrate same bars.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
February 01 2013 12:08 GMT
#41158
On February 01 2013 21:04 ChrisXIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 20:45 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
On February 01 2013 20:43 Nilrem wrote:
On February 01 2013 20:39 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
The new system relates your performance with one hero to your performance with other heroes. The old system compared your performance with one hero to other people's performance with the same hero. This becomes really obvious on some heroes, like Dark Seer who has been top tier material for ages.


If there is no objective comparison, does that not mean at least one hero will be 10? Since for there to be a comparison, there needs to be a "top" to know where the others should be. I do not know though, just seems weird to me.

Everyone I knows has ten bars on at least one hero and it seems reasonable that it would be that way.

Looks to me like it's based on winrate. All heroes with >=75% have 10 bars for me.

Edit: Yeah, definitely only winrate, doesn't matter what hero, same winrate same bars.

Definitely not winrate. My sniper is 2 wins 3 losses and is 10 bars.
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ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
February 01 2013 12:10 GMT
#41159
On February 01 2013 21:08 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 21:04 ChrisXIV wrote:
On February 01 2013 20:45 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
On February 01 2013 20:43 Nilrem wrote:
On February 01 2013 20:39 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
The new system relates your performance with one hero to your performance with other heroes. The old system compared your performance with one hero to other people's performance with the same hero. This becomes really obvious on some heroes, like Dark Seer who has been top tier material for ages.


If there is no objective comparison, does that not mean at least one hero will be 10? Since for there to be a comparison, there needs to be a "top" to know where the others should be. I do not know though, just seems weird to me.

Everyone I knows has ten bars on at least one hero and it seems reasonable that it would be that way.

Looks to me like it's based on winrate. All heroes with >=75% have 10 bars for me.

Edit: Yeah, definitely only winrate, doesn't matter what hero, same winrate same bars.

Definitely not winrate. My sniper is 2 wins 3 losses and is 10 bars.

Definitely winrate for me o_O. 24-24 Windrunner = 2-2 CK = 3-3 Clinkz etc...
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 12:13:19
February 01 2013 12:11 GMT
#41160
On February 01 2013 21:10 ChrisXIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 21:08 Firebolt145 wrote:
On February 01 2013 21:04 ChrisXIV wrote:
On February 01 2013 20:45 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
On February 01 2013 20:43 Nilrem wrote:
On February 01 2013 20:39 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
The new system relates your performance with one hero to your performance with other heroes. The old system compared your performance with one hero to other people's performance with the same hero. This becomes really obvious on some heroes, like Dark Seer who has been top tier material for ages.


If there is no objective comparison, does that not mean at least one hero will be 10? Since for there to be a comparison, there needs to be a "top" to know where the others should be. I do not know though, just seems weird to me.

Everyone I knows has ten bars on at least one hero and it seems reasonable that it would be that way.

Looks to me like it's based on winrate. All heroes with >=75% have 10 bars for me.

Edit: Yeah, definitely only winrate, doesn't matter what hero, same winrate same bars.

Definitely not winrate. My sniper is 2 wins 3 losses and is 10 bars.

Definitely winrate for me o_O. 24-24 Windrunner = 2-2 CK = 3-3 Clinkz etc...


Yeah I don't think it is based solely on winrate alone. Emphasis is on "solely" based on.

With that said, my 12-12, 2-2, 3-3, 6-6. and 2-2 are all just after 6, exactly the same. So I do not know, this is confusing me lol,
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
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