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aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
February 01 2013 02:18 GMT
#41061
hmm been almost 30mins and still not done. it was going at 5mb/s now 150kb/s...
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
February 01 2013 02:20 GMT
#41062
holy donkey butts this patch is ginormous
KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
February 01 2013 02:26 GMT
#41063
So anyone noticed the loading time changes?
To Skeleton King: "Have you considered employment at Apple?"
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 02:37:21
February 01 2013 02:36 GMT
#41064
On February 01 2013 11:11 FinestHour wrote:
lmfao about time they fuckin fixed your heroes played bars
oh my lord and they just have advertisements run in the game while ur waiting for a game to pop hahahahaha

It should be noted that these advertisements are for in game items.

On February 01 2013 11:26 KezseN wrote:
So anyone noticed the loading time changes?

Everything seem near instant for me now. Pretty neat.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
February 01 2013 02:37 GMT
#41065
Those adverts are pretty smart. A lot of people would never open the store tab.
Once you Goblak...
KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
February 01 2013 02:40 GMT
#41066
On February 01 2013 11:36 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 11:11 FinestHour wrote:
lmfao about time they fuckin fixed your heroes played bars
oh my lord and they just have advertisements run in the game while ur waiting for a game to pop hahahahaha

It should be noted that these advertisements are for in game items.

Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 11:26 KezseN wrote:
So anyone noticed the loading time changes?

Everything seem near instant for me now. Pretty neat.


Sounds sweet. So the first game would be loaded up really quick now eh
To Skeleton King: "Have you considered employment at Apple?"
The Irate Turk
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
285 Posts
February 01 2013 02:46 GMT
#41067
On February 01 2013 04:00 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 03:48 PassiveAce wrote:
Does anyone else feel like razor is vastly underestimated/undervalued?

The only question of him is in what situations he faces best, how best to lane him, and other minor questions. I think a lot of players think he is good, but just don't feel comfortable about when to draft him or not. I think he could be amazing against a Naix pick.

AngryTestie plays a DISGUSTING Corrupted Disciple who is the HON equivalent of Razor. He can rice really well on him and he can tear people apart. Testie can do this with most heroes but his CD is definitely very strong.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 02:59:28
February 01 2013 02:48 GMT
#41068
Razor is one of the few heroes i genuinely enjoy playing regardless of badly i am playing.

hmm my list would be

treant
razor
Warlock
Earthshaker
CM

^^


Oh god. i don't know if i can play dota anymore... i'm trying to queue for a game... but that lone druid panda keeps staring at me..... its sooo cute.... i can't... resist. T_T but i'm poor.
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
February 01 2013 03:04 GMT
#41069
Holy 2gb patch batman!
Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
February 01 2013 03:14 GMT
#41070
On February 01 2013 10:48 teapoted wrote:
Gabe talking some Dota/Pennant stuff and Dendi Crystal Maiden Carry


Wow, AMAZING lecture. Gabe is so well versed in so many different areas - human behavior, organizational theory, economics, tech - it's a wonder how he ties it all together. I'm surprised he hasn't spoken at TED yet.

Thanks for sharing!
"I like winter, you can put a beer outside of the window and come back later to have it nice and cold. But in Belgium, it'd better be the 3rd floor window." -Rowa
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
February 01 2013 03:25 GMT
#41071
On February 01 2013 12:14 Rybka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 10:48 teapoted wrote:
Gabe talking some Dota/Pennant stuff and Dendi Crystal Maiden Carry


Wow, AMAZING lecture. Gabe is so well versed in so many different areas - human behavior, organizational theory, economics, tech - it's a wonder how he ties it all together. I'm surprised he hasn't spoken at TED yet.

Thanks for sharing!
There was another one where he talked about dotabuff and rating. I transcribed it in another thread but might as well post here.

"The rating system that we're using is an internal one, that we think is kind of crappy. We think the idea is fine, it's just a lousy implementation. And the change that we made was specifically to give users more control over how their data was. And the DotaBuff guys sort of wigged out about it. So we think we're making the right decision on both of those. To give users a better more robust mechanism so that users know how well they play, and also make users feel like... So one of the important characteristics of a system is how true it feels to people, that's something we're always conscious of. We want to make system that feel trustworthy. Because there's actually a lot of real economic value to having a system behaving in a predictable fashion. That's sort of a long-winded way to say that we think we did the right thing."

Will you ever implement a rating system?

"Oh yeah, we're in the process of doing that. We think the one that's currently in it is sort of a crappy one that we did before we had a better idea of how to do it. We want people to add value, because that's what we think is the key to successful games. To enable people to do stuff like, generating replays, commentary, coming up with clever ways of evaluating players. All of them look like content creation, things we have to fit into a framework if we're properly designing it.
Once you Goblak...
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
February 01 2013 03:25 GMT
#41072
On February 01 2013 12:14 Rybka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 10:48 teapoted wrote:
Gabe talking some Dota/Pennant stuff and Dendi Crystal Maiden Carry


Wow, AMAZING lecture. Gabe is so well versed in so many different areas - human behavior, organizational theory, economics, tech - it's a wonder how he ties it all together. I'm surprised he hasn't spoken at TED yet.

Thanks for sharing!


That's why Valve is awesome, with someone like Gabe at the helm. He's a genius yet he doesn't have that smug feeling many big shot game developers have. Loved that carry CM quote, he sounds like he knows the inside jokes of dota .
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 01 2013 03:33 GMT
#41073
On February 01 2013 11:46 The Irate Turk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 04:00 Comeh wrote:
On February 01 2013 03:48 PassiveAce wrote:
Does anyone else feel like razor is vastly underestimated/undervalued?

The only question of him is in what situations he faces best, how best to lane him, and other minor questions. I think a lot of players think he is good, but just don't feel comfortable about when to draft him or not. I think he could be amazing against a Naix pick.

AngryTestie plays a DISGUSTING Corrupted Disciple who is the HON equivalent of Razor. He can rice really well on him and he can tear people apart. Testie can do this with most heroes but his CD is definitely very strong.


the thing is animations and turn rates being nonexistant in hon makes certain heroes godlike in hon while still mediocre in dota
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
February 01 2013 03:39 GMT
#41074
cd isnt amazing in hon either.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 03:51:40
February 01 2013 03:43 GMT
#41075
On February 01 2013 11:46 The Irate Turk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 04:00 Comeh wrote:
On February 01 2013 03:48 PassiveAce wrote:
Does anyone else feel like razor is vastly underestimated/undervalued?

The only question of him is in what situations he faces best, how best to lane him, and other minor questions. I think a lot of players think he is good, but just don't feel comfortable about when to draft him or not. I think he could be amazing against a Naix pick.

AngryTestie plays a DISGUSTING Corrupted Disciple who is the HON equivalent of Razor. He can rice really well on him and he can tear people apart. Testie can do this with most heroes but his CD is definitely very strong.
This isn't HoN though.

And although HoN has similar heroes I don't think the comparison is especially fruitful. I'm also not sure what 1 specific player's usage of the hero is supposed to say. Is that guy better than everyone who's ever tried to play Razor in Dota? I'd highly doubt it, Razor is an okay anti-carry who can be used in some very niche situations but ultimately he's not all that useful and not that difficult to shut down, no matter how skilled the player.
Once you Goblak...
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 04:08:30
February 01 2013 04:07 GMT
#41076
razors borderline at the moment. if his starting stats were slightly better, he would be very strong. but he aint so!

even with his passive its too easy to focus him down right now and he doesnt scale into the late game very well, and his early/midgame isnt as strong as some other heroes to justify playing him as such.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
February 01 2013 04:10 GMT
#41077
during the Sven craze i thought that razor would be the obvious counterpick. But most teams just rolled our and died rather than try new strategies.
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
February 01 2013 04:11 GMT
#41078
Oh hey, a new high from the steam servers for me, 80mb/s

Chen mount looks sweet too.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
February 01 2013 04:13 GMT
#41079
On February 01 2013 13:10 SirMilford wrote:
during the Sven craze i thought that razor would be the obvious counterpick. But most teams just rolled our and died rather than try new strategies.

static needs time to set in and his low hp doesnt make him a guaranteed counter
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
February 01 2013 04:15 GMT
#41080
On February 01 2013 13:10 SirMilford wrote:
during the Sven craze i thought that razor would be the obvious counterpick. But most teams just rolled our and died rather than try new strategies.

welcome to the west.
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