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teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 00:57:06
February 01 2013 00:40 GMT
#41041
On February 01 2013 03:40 Jetaap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 03:32 Darkren wrote:
On February 01 2013 02:26 teapoted wrote:
Finding it hard to believe they're spending that much on the teams going to the LAN final. They've said at the end of the last 3 seasons they'll increase the prize pool. We know they're not paying for flights, and accommodations in Ukraine isn't exactly expensive.

Defense is same shit. They've increased the pool by what? from 10k euro to 20k dollars, An increase of 50%. Even though jD's numbers are enormous now, and the prize pool is most likely supplied by sponsors. And they have absurd amounts of ticket sales.

Dota prize pools are far too low for their viewership, that's just how it is. Hopefully this ESL league will change that through-out. (and as far as I'm aware, ESL pays for flights as well)


Or maybe the sc ones are too high for their viewership?

Yeah it's relatively widely accepted that the ROI on starcraft has become really bad for the most part. And also, going from 10k to 20k is a 100% increase not 50%.
I dont think creating a "bubble" around dota2 is a smart idea, I'd rather see organisation try to be sustainable.
I guess I should have been more clear with the whole euro/dollar thing, but it is 50%.

My main point is that if you have a $x tournament when you are 20% of the size you are today, then you shouldn't be hosting $x tournaments anymore. Especially when you've added an extra revenue stream which likely earns you as much as the entire prize pool for some tournaments. And I'm not saying this only about jD. It applies to all the competitions.

Although ultimately it's a problem because you don't need to have higher prize pools, you will get the same teams in the west for a 10k tournament and a 40k tournament. And the organizations which are currently in Dota aren't very good at attracting sponsors.

I'd hope this changes with the EMS. Because the prize pools at the moment may be sustainable for tournaments, but it's not for players and teams, and I think tournaments 'should' be able to offer more.
Once you Goblak...
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
February 01 2013 00:56 GMT
#41042
I don't play this game, but I noticed on TC's stream that even when he's pushing towers or at the opponent's ancient structure, he's still denying creeps. This seems counterproductive. Is he just stat-padding in a won game or is there some reason for this?
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
February 01 2013 01:02 GMT
#41043
Probably just automatically denying creeps because it's been trained into him
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Corwin
Profile Joined August 2011
Estonia36 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 01:25:08
February 01 2013 01:22 GMT
#41044
On February 01 2013 08:19 Dattish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 08:18 Corwin wrote:
Can i ask, where are the russian servers located. Im not in russia but i get 4-5 ms when i play there. Russians even dont get that....
Stockholm, Sweden

So...where are the EU east and west servers then ?
Allso, sweeeet, 5ms across to SWE from EST....siiick :D
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
February 01 2013 01:24 GMT
#41045
On February 01 2013 09:56 Redmark wrote:
I don't play this game, but I noticed on TC's stream that even when he's pushing towers or at the opponent's ancient structure, he's still denying creeps. This seems counterproductive. Is he just stat-padding in a won game or is there some reason for this?

Probably just habit, even though it hurts the push it still actually is useful if there are any enemies nearby to help prevent comebacks and if he was bloodseeker then it heals him.
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
February 01 2013 01:24 GMT
#41046
Haha i've just gotten my first max-out bloodstone on Necrolyte. Insta-revive is insanely strong. First time i've managed to get a bloodstone fully charged on DOTA 2
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
February 01 2013 01:27 GMT
#41047
On February 01 2013 10:02 ahswtini wrote:
Probably just automatically denying creeps because it's been trained into him

that's an interesting statement if you don't play dota 2
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 01:30:40
February 01 2013 01:29 GMT
#41048
He probably wouldn't do it in a serious game. People learn pretty early on when they shouldn't deny.

Like weapon switching in CS, keeps you occupied.
Once you Goblak...
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 01 2013 01:45 GMT
#41049
holy hell long ass patch
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
February 01 2013 01:47 GMT
#41050
Lordie this a huge patch,
its like 2gb
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
February 01 2013 01:48 GMT
#41051
Gabe talking some Dota/Pennant stuff and Dendi Crystal Maiden Carry
Once you Goblak...
fishbowl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1575 Posts
February 01 2013 01:49 GMT
#41052
File restructuring, etc...
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 01 2013 01:50 GMT
#41053
is anyone already done and noticing reduced load times as they said in notes
i do love reduced load times
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
February 01 2013 01:53 GMT
#41054
pretty big patch.
Ginastic
Profile Joined July 2010
Albania69 Posts
February 01 2013 01:56 GMT
#41055
2gig..damn
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
February 01 2013 01:58 GMT
#41056
Yeah.. Jesus this patch is annoyingly big. Was downloading at 1.1 Mb/second when I afk'd... Came back 10 mins later and had only gone up like 15%..
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
February 01 2013 02:01 GMT
#41057
There was a patch? i took a lunch break and loaded the game back up immediately xD i love my internet
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
February 01 2013 02:02 GMT
#41058
On February 01 2013 11:01 PrinceXizor wrote:
There was a patch? i took a lunch break and loaded the game back up immediately xD i love my internet


The test patch notes from yesterday:

"Update Notes - January 30, 2013

NOTE: This update has reorganized the file layout of Dota 2 to speed up loading and for future localization support. This will result in a large update and may take a while to download."
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 02:14:06
February 01 2013 02:11 GMT
#41059
lmfao about time they fuckin fixed your heroes played bars
oh my lord and they just have advertisements run in the game while ur waiting for a game to pop hahahahaha
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 02:12:05
February 01 2013 02:11 GMT
#41060
There are also new item sets in the store. New Chen set, new AM set, Enchantress set, and new WR set.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
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