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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 31 2013 20:29 GMT
#41021
On February 01 2013 05:26 SheaR619 wrote:
I know this is a bit off topic with the whole Aghanim sceptar talk atm but I been having alot of trouble lately dealing with Spirit breaker. I havent played for a long time and just recently got into beta and was surprise to see that when Spirit breaker charges, you no longer see the debuff of the charge anymore. Instead their entire team even knows they are charging this specific person with a symbol over their head. I was laning mid as drow against a sniper. When he hit 6 (I was 7, I out laned him), spirit breaker just keep charging me with combination of sniper ulti and I just keep dying. I would assume that this type of strategy would still be rather effective in most game. In general, how do you deal with this or deal with spirit breaker in general without being forced to get completely zone out if possible?

Of course I am talking about pub game.

Warding the runes and just falling back when you spot him is best way to deal with that. And make sure to spam whenever he charges someone, communication is key
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 31 2013 20:30 GMT
#41022
On February 01 2013 05:26 SheaR619 wrote:
I know this is a bit off topic with the whole Aghanim sceptar talk atm but I been having alot of trouble lately dealing with Spirit breaker. I havent played for a long time and just recently got into beta and was surprise to see that when Spirit breaker charges, you no longer see the debuff of the charge anymore. Instead their entire team even knows they are charging this specific person with a symbol over their head. I was laning mid as drow against a sniper. When he hit 6 (I was 7, I out laned him), spirit breaker just keep charging me with combination of sniper ulti and I just keep dying. I would assume that this type of strategy would still be rather effective in most game. In general, how do you deal with this or deal with spirit breaker in general without being forced to get completely zone out if possible?

Of course I am talking about pub game.

A: vision / wards / calling miss is pretty important against spirit breaker.
B: Drow is actually a pretty bad mid hero because she is so vulnerable to ganks and has no form of rune control (and midlane hightlights this, though sniper has this issue as well).
C: Being out of position against an SB usually will cost your life, double this when you have no supports near you. Having supports nearby is great when dealing with SB.
D:SB 2 m@nly #yolo
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ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
January 31 2013 21:26 GMT
#41023
Nah keep going mid as drow, i want mah free runes, easy kills and first bloods :3

Storm Spirit - bullying drow mid in total impunity since the dawn of time.
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
January 31 2013 21:58 GMT
#41024
so i just returned to singapore after 3 weeks away from civilisation

what did i miss? i know medusa and troll is out, but anything else major happened? any crazy games/vods? :o
POGGERS
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 31 2013 21:59 GMT
#41025
On February 01 2013 06:58 konadora wrote:
so i just returned to singapore after 3 weeks away from civilisation

what did i miss? i know medusa and troll is out, but anything else major happened? any crazy games/vods? :o

Your posts per day dropped below 30
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 31 2013 22:03 GMT
#41026
On February 01 2013 06:58 konadora wrote:
so i just returned to singapore after 3 weeks away from civilisation

what did i miss? i know medusa and troll is out, but anything else major happened? any crazy games/vods? :o


You can read the Defense 3 Playoffs preview, then watch the last vod. Next level stuff right there.

Otherwise, more rumours of sing's new team are basically confirmed (Sing, Wagamamma, EGM, Notahax, ComeWithMe), Fnatic.NA imploded, thats about it.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 22:15:24
January 31 2013 22:07 GMT
#41027
I think you might have missed that mtw organization (whole thing, not synd's team) is dead.

EDIT: Oh, you missed a whole huge controversy with Dotabuff, publicly released MMR visible to everyone, and valve shutdown (and reopening) of the website. People were mad.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 31 2013 22:14 GMT
#41028
On February 01 2013 07:07 Comeh wrote:
I think you might have missed that mtw organization (whole thing, not synd's team) is dead.

Same for own3d.tv
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
January 31 2013 22:16 GMT
#41029
On February 01 2013 07:07 Comeh wrote:
I think you might have missed that mtw organization (whole thing, not synd's team) is dead.

EDIT: Oh, you missed a whole huge controversy with Dotabuff, publicly released MMR visible to everyone, and valve shutdown (and reopening) of the website. People were mad.

"valve shutdown" should be in quotes since dotabuff were the ones who took their site down themselves after finding out they couldn't use an exploit to gather data and they'd have to do it themselves.
SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
January 31 2013 22:32 GMT
#41030
On February 01 2013 05:30 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 05:26 SheaR619 wrote:
I know this is a bit off topic with the whole Aghanim sceptar talk atm but I been having alot of trouble lately dealing with Spirit breaker. I havent played for a long time and just recently got into beta and was surprise to see that when Spirit breaker charges, you no longer see the debuff of the charge anymore. Instead their entire team even knows they are charging this specific person with a symbol over their head. I was laning mid as drow against a sniper. When he hit 6 (I was 7, I out laned him), spirit breaker just keep charging me with combination of sniper ulti and I just keep dying. I would assume that this type of strategy would still be rather effective in most game. In general, how do you deal with this or deal with spirit breaker in general without being forced to get completely zone out if possible?

Of course I am talking about pub game.

A: vision / wards / calling miss is pretty important against spirit breaker.
B: Drow is actually a pretty bad mid hero because she is so vulnerable to ganks and has no form of rune control (and midlane hightlights this, though sniper has this issue as well).
C: Being out of position against an SB usually will cost your life, double this when you have no supports near you. Having supports nearby is great when dealing with SB.
D:SB 2 m@nly #yolo


Ya i knew drow was bad mid but it a pub game and no one picked anything better for mid lol. So I ended up going mid. Anyways, I guess that is the best way to deal with it. Thx
I may not be the best, but i will be some day...
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
January 31 2013 23:00 GMT
#41031
I need to work on my carry play
Step 1, be selfish as fuck
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 23:06:18
January 31 2013 23:02 GMT
#41032
On February 01 2013 07:07 Comeh wrote:
I think you might have missed that mtw organization (whole thing, not synd's team) is dead.

EDIT: Oh, you missed a whole huge controversy with Dotabuff, publicly released MMR visible to everyone, and valve shutdown (and reopening) of the website. People were mad.
Just to be clear. Valve added a privacy option and changed some other things which affected how Dotabuff got it's data. Dotabuff said valve shut them down like 12 hours after this update and had a message up saying they were essentially dead. Then 1 day later they put the site back up. And Valve has added additional features to how sites can get data through the proper channels (not how Dotabuff was doing it).

Wouldn't have been much of a controversy if Dotabuff didn't start crying after 12 hours.
Once you Goblak...
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
January 31 2013 23:13 GMT
#41033
On February 01 2013 06:58 konadora wrote:
so i just returned to singapore after 3 weeks away from civilisation

what did i miss? i know medusa and troll is out, but anything else major happened? any crazy games/vods? :o
Biggest thing is ESL hosting a $156,000 1 year league with 4 LAN tournaments.

Other than that, SEA League cast by BTS was announced. MTW went under. own3d went under. Fnatic.na kicked 4 members, that day was the most anyone ever cared about Fnatic.na.
Once you Goblak...
Corwin
Profile Joined August 2011
Estonia36 Posts
January 31 2013 23:18 GMT
#41034
Can i ask, where are the russian servers located. Im not in russia but i get 4-5 ms when i play there. Russians even dont get that....
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 23:20:25
January 31 2013 23:19 GMT
#41035
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
January 31 2013 23:47 GMT
#41036
I still don't understand why russians queue for every server. i've played from US west to SA to AUS to CN all over the place and everywhere you get a large amount of russians, it's just weird because the pings have to be awful.
BeanerBurrito
Profile Joined December 2010
1010 Posts
February 01 2013 00:02 GMT
#41037
On February 01 2013 08:47 PrinceXizor wrote:
I still don't understand why russians queue for every server. i've played from US west to SA to AUS to CN all over the place and everywhere you get a large amount of russians, it's just weird because the pings have to be awful.


Why do you queue for every server? o.o
What they say: "I'm gonna play support!" What they mean: "I'm gonna feed all game!"
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
February 01 2013 00:03 GMT
#41038
I find sb to be a relatively good counter to drow actually, he can close the gap quickly thanks to his charge, and stun her/kill her before she can even react and deal her absurd damage. It's also quite good against shadowblade users (since the charge gives you the position of the ennemy you're charging even if he goes invi).
On another note, sven+troll is absolutely ridiculous. We were doing quite poorly (ennemy team had ES+sandking that kep wrecking us with their ult+ ursa), but this troll ulti+sven ulti combo is just completly ridiculous.
Basically all you need to teamwipe is bkb, the amount of damage that you do is just absurd with very little farm.
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
February 01 2013 00:06 GMT
#41039
On February 01 2013 03:42 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 03:40 Jetaap wrote:
On February 01 2013 03:32 Darkren wrote:
On February 01 2013 02:26 teapoted wrote:
Finding it hard to believe they're spending that much on the teams going to the LAN final. They've said at the end of the last 3 seasons they'll increase the prize pool. We know they're not paying for flights, and accommodations in Ukraine isn't exactly expensive.

Defense is same shit. They've increased the pool by what? from 10k euro to 20k dollars, An increase of 50%. Even though jD's numbers are enormous now, and the prize pool is most likely supplied by sponsors. And they have absurd amounts of ticket sales.

Dota prize pools are far too low for their viewership, that's just how it is. Hopefully this ESL league will change that through-out. (and as far as I'm aware, ESL pays for flights as well)


Or maybe the sc ones are too high for their viewership?

Yeah it's relatively widely accepted that the ROI on starcraft has become really bad for the most part. And also, going from 10k to 20k is a 100% increase not 50%.
I dont think creating a "bubble" around dota2 is a smart idea, I'd rather see organisation try to be sustainable.


There is difference between dollar and euro.

Uh that's really deceiving >_<.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
February 01 2013 00:06 GMT
#41040
On February 01 2013 09:02 BeanerBurrito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 08:47 PrinceXizor wrote:
I still don't understand why russians queue for every server. i've played from US west to SA to AUS to CN all over the place and everywhere you get a large amount of russians, it's just weird because the pings have to be awful.


Why do you queue for every server? o.o

I queued for AUS because i like austrailian dota players. i queued for CN and SEA just to see how laggy it was, queued for SA to see if the Brazillians on that server were more skilled than NA, i queue for US west when playing with my US west friends. . I queue on west europe in the morning since the wait time is less than half and the ping is acceptable at 100.
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