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On February 01 2013 02:26 teapoted wrote:
Finding it hard to believe they're spending that much on the teams going to the LAN final. They've said at the end of the last 3 seasons they'll increase the prize pool. We know they're not paying for flights, and accommodations in Ukraine isn't exactly expensive.
Defense is same shit. They've increased the pool by what? from 10k euro to 20k dollars, An increase of 50%. Even though jD's numbers are enormous now, and the prize pool is most likely supplied by sponsors. And they have absurd amounts of ticket sales.
Dota prize pools are far too low for their viewership, that's just how it is. Hopefully this ESL league will change that through-out. (and as far as I'm aware, ESL pays for flights as well)
Or maybe the sc ones are too high for their viewership?
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On February 01 2013 03:32 Darkren wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 02:26 teapoted wrote:
Finding it hard to believe they're spending that much on the teams going to the LAN final. They've said at the end of the last 3 seasons they'll increase the prize pool. We know they're not paying for flights, and accommodations in Ukraine isn't exactly expensive.
Defense is same shit. They've increased the pool by what? from 10k euro to 20k dollars, An increase of 50%. Even though jD's numbers are enormous now, and the prize pool is most likely supplied by sponsors. And they have absurd amounts of ticket sales.
Dota prize pools are far too low for their viewership, that's just how it is. Hopefully this ESL league will change that through-out. (and as far as I'm aware, ESL pays for flights as well) Or maybe the sc ones are too high for their viewership?
Yeah it's relatively widely accepted that the ROI on starcraft has become really bad for the most part. And also, going from 10k to 20k is a 100% increase not 50%.
I dont think creating a "bubble" around dota2 is a smart idea, I'd rather see organisation try to be sustainable.
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On February 01 2013 03:40 Jetaap wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 03:32 Darkren wrote:On February 01 2013 02:26 teapoted wrote:
Finding it hard to believe they're spending that much on the teams going to the LAN final. They've said at the end of the last 3 seasons they'll increase the prize pool. We know they're not paying for flights, and accommodations in Ukraine isn't exactly expensive.
Defense is same shit. They've increased the pool by what? from 10k euro to 20k dollars, An increase of 50%. Even though jD's numbers are enormous now, and the prize pool is most likely supplied by sponsors. And they have absurd amounts of ticket sales.
Dota prize pools are far too low for their viewership, that's just how it is. Hopefully this ESL league will change that through-out. (and as far as I'm aware, ESL pays for flights as well) Or maybe the sc ones are too high for their viewership? Yeah it's relatively widely accepted that the ROI on starcraft has become really bad for the most part. And also, going from 10k to 20k is a 100% increase not 50%. I dont think creating a "bubble" around dota2 is a smart idea, I'd rather see organisation try to be sustainable.
There is difference between dollar and euro.
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On February 01 2013 03:40 Jetaap wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 03:32 Darkren wrote:On February 01 2013 02:26 teapoted wrote:
Finding it hard to believe they're spending that much on the teams going to the LAN final. They've said at the end of the last 3 seasons they'll increase the prize pool. We know they're not paying for flights, and accommodations in Ukraine isn't exactly expensive.
Defense is same shit. They've increased the pool by what? from 10k euro to 20k dollars, An increase of 50%. Even though jD's numbers are enormous now, and the prize pool is most likely supplied by sponsors. And they have absurd amounts of ticket sales.
Dota prize pools are far too low for their viewership, that's just how it is. Hopefully this ESL league will change that through-out. (and as far as I'm aware, ESL pays for flights as well) Or maybe the sc ones are too high for their viewership? Yeah it's relatively widely accepted that the ROI on starcraft has become really bad for the most part. And also, going from 10k to 20k is a 100% increase not 50%. I dont think creating a "bubble" around dota2 is a smart idea, I'd rather see organisation try to be sustainable.
Euros friend
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Does anyone else feel like razor is vastly underestimated/undervalued?
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On February 01 2013 03:48 PassiveAce wrote:
Does anyone else feel like razor is vastly underestimated/undervalued?
The only question of him is in what situations he faces best, how best to lane him, and other minor questions. I think a lot of players think he is good, but just don't feel comfortable about when to draft him or not. I think he could be amazing against a Naix pick.
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On February 01 2013 04:00 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 03:48 PassiveAce wrote:
Does anyone else feel like razor is vastly underestimated/undervalued? The only question of him is in what situations he faces best, how best to lane him, and other minor questions. I think a lot of players think he is good, but just don't feel comfortable about when to draft him or not. I think he could be amazing against a Naix pick.
I don't know, I feel he's just a fairly weak hero overall. It's very hard to actually keep link draining. He requires a fair bit of farm before he can do anything. He's also very weak as a carry later in the game. On top of all that, he has literally no push power at all.
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On February 01 2013 04:00 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 03:48 PassiveAce wrote:
Does anyone else feel like razor is vastly underestimated/undervalued? The only question of him is in what situations he faces best, how best to lane him, and other minor questions. I think a lot of players think he is good, but just don't feel comfortable about when to draft him or not. I think he could be amazing against a Naix pick.
Infest would stop it, specially during big fights where they wait for ultis to be ready but in small skirmishes it could be nice, but it's true it can prevent naix from infesting the initator.
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On February 01 2013 04:10 Nub4ever wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 04:00 Comeh wrote:On February 01 2013 03:48 PassiveAce wrote:
Does anyone else feel like razor is vastly underestimated/undervalued? The only question of him is in what situations he faces best, how best to lane him, and other minor questions. I think a lot of players think he is good, but just don't feel comfortable about when to draft him or not. I think he could be amazing against a Naix pick. I don't know, I feel he's just a fairly weak hero overall. It's very hard to actually keep link draining. He requires a fair bit of farm before he can do anything. He's also very weak as a carry later in the game. On top of all that, he has literally no push power at all.
Keep link draining - depends on what hero. Razor has incredibly movespeed, so its not too much to keep it draining (as long as you're picking razor in an intelligent matter. Don't pick him against AM obviously XD)
He has somewhat notable push power in that Q can nuke creeps down fairly quickly (plus, its not like we are exactly in a push meta atm). As a whole, I think he just needs to farm tanky items, and if you build a decent controlling teamfight with one or two good aoe ults (ravage, RP, etc), I think razor could fit well against a naix, sven, etc type pick.
Edit: He was picked recently in TD3 iirc, can't remember the game (think they lost, but more of a throw than a "RAZOR SUCKS LOL" situation.)
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dam league got an article written about it on espn i wish dota could be on espn
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On February 01 2013 04:15 FinestHour wrote:
dam league got an article written about it on espn i wish dota could be on espn
patience, young one.
Plus, keep in mind, ESPN has also broadcasted such sports as paintball, which lasted a week or so.
Edit: I can't even find this article on their webpage. Probably just some intern working for ESPN that likes league >.>
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It's like their press week for S3, there's LoL stuff on every single site out there all saying the same nonsense.
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Because LoL is more popular and always will be
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On February 01 2013 04:32 Mazzi wrote:
Because LoL is more popular and always will be Can you read?
It's a press week, the whole purpose is to get news stories out there. Has nothing to do with 'being popular'. If Blizzard wanted ESPN to write an article about SC2, they could get them to.
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On February 01 2013 04:32 Mazzi wrote:
Because LoL is more popular and always will be
Look everyone - a time traveler~! How is food in the future? Will the Cubs ever win a world series?
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Let the butthurtness begin
User was warned for this post
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On February 01 2013 04:44 Mazzi wrote:
Let the butthurtness begin Maybe you should stop trolling in Dota general instead.
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On February 01 2013 04:14 nojok wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 04:00 Comeh wrote:On February 01 2013 03:48 PassiveAce wrote:
Does anyone else feel like razor is vastly underestimated/undervalued? The only question of him is in what situations he faces best, how best to lane him, and other minor questions. I think a lot of players think he is good, but just don't feel comfortable about when to draft him or not. I think he could be amazing against a Naix pick. Infest would stop it, specially during big fights where they wait for ultis to be ready but in small skirmishes it could be nice, but it's true it can prevent naix from infesting the initator.
Infest doesnt stop static link, i think the drain stop but the link stays on
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On February 01 2013 04:44 Mazzi wrote:
Let the butthurtness begin
gl with that
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On February 01 2013 03:15 Yoshi- wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 03:13 Nub4ever wrote:On February 01 2013 03:05 TheKefka wrote:On February 01 2013 02:10 RuskiPanda wrote:
Sticky napalm should be a top ban. That skill is just way too good with how obnoxious Turn rate is. stick napalm vs mirana is so lolzy I don't think I've ever survived a real bat gank. Cause 90% of the time when I try to turn and stun I don't wait long enough for the turn rate reduction ;_; Can you still do back arrows with mirana?
no!
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