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And awesome with new season of starladder, always enjoyed those events.
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
I, what. And awesome with new season of starladder, always enjoyed those events. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On February 01 2013 01:33 Unleashing wrote: LoL player friend of mine gave DotA a try and found courier to be a hassle because it took too long to change between hero and courier, i suggested just using hotkeys and he said "hotkeys are shit" I, what. And awesome with new season of starladder, always enjoyed those events. certainly faster and easier to cast recall, buy your items, then walk all the way back.  | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Skip to 2minutes 45seconds. I found that way too funny. Especially considering I lived in SEA. Also skip to 7min 30s where they introduce the crew, the leplay master is the best. ~ Nice that SL has another season, but I really don't get why the prize pool is the same as it was in Season 1,2,3. Considering they now have tickets, which are one of the more popular ones. They also have about 10 times the viewership they had in Season 1. It seems even though Dota's viewership is now bigger than SC2 (No western SC2 league gets numbers as consistently big as SL), yet we have the same shitty prize pools. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On February 01 2013 01:33 Unleashing wrote: LoL player friend of mine gave DotA a try and found courier to be a hassle because it took too long to change between hero and courier, i suggested just using hotkeys and he said "hotkeys are shit" I, what. And awesome with new season of starladder, always enjoyed those events. Yeah, hitting the "Select Courier" button so hard. O.O | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
Also curious on the validity on Gyro, and whether or not China will see value in him in the next month or so. | ||
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RuskiPanda
United States2906 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On February 01 2013 01:55 Comeh wrote: After watching and playing a decent amount of games, I'm thinking that Wisp should be the top ban in the game, with batrider slightly behind (In Western play). Wisp laning can be extremely dodgy depending on what heroes you have and what heroes the enemy have. The chinese just pick some strong aggressive tri and dominate wisp early game generally so the wisp has such a late 6 it doesn't even matter. I think wisp is strong but only in the right situation, you can't just blindly pick it. It makes more sense being a top ban against certain teams that really know how to use it and then situational ban against other teams that can use it but it's not core to their gameplay. On February 01 2013 01:55 Comeh wrote: Also curious on the validity on Gyro, and whether or not China will see value in him in the next month or so. Gyro I find is weird. He's got really amazing damage early game and his late game damage is good too but it feels like there's a middle patch where he's slightly weak. Where he can't get in range for rocket barrage but doesn't have enough damage items to make up for that. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:10 RuskiPanda wrote: Sticky napalm should be a top ban. That skill is just way too good with how obnoxious Turn rate is. I feel like they should just change bat to have scaling turn-rate decrease (25/40/55/70% turnrate slow) as opposed to flat 70%. However, I'm not sure how much of an effect this would have on his competitive play (which I suppose is where the issue is). Another thought is to have charge based turn-rate decrease on the napalm (25% turnrate per stack of napalm, max -75%), or a combo of both (15/20/25/30% turnrate per stack, max 40/50/60/70% or similar). Again though, this is the part of bat that is annoying in pubs not in pro games. Maybe it would reduce his laning power enough to make him more reasonable in pro games? Unlikely, his midgame is too berzerk. Dunno though, I'm not IceFrog | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
On February 01 2013 01:43 teapoted wrote: http://www.twitch.tv/elg2team/b/362573120 Skip to 2minutes 45seconds. I found that way too funny. Especially considering I lived in SEA. Also skip to 7min 30s where they introduce the crew, the leplay master is the best. ~ Nice that SL has another season, but I really don't get why the prize pool is the same as it was in Season 1,2,3. Considering they now have tickets, which are one of the more popular ones. They also have about 10 times the viewership they had in Season 1. It seems even though Dota's viewership is now bigger than SC2 (No western SC2 league gets numbers as consistently big as SL), yet we have the same shitty prize pools. Wasn't there some talk about separate online and LAN prizepool before? The article doesn't mention anything, tho. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:14 Numy wrote: Wisp laning can be extremely dodgy depending on what heroes you have and what heroes the enemy have. The chinese just pick some strong aggressive tri and dominate wisp early game generally so the wisp has such a late 6 it doesn't even matter. I think wisp is strong but only in the right situation, you can't just blindly pick it. It makes more sense being a top ban against certain teams that really know how to use it and then situational ban against other teams that can use it but it's not core to their gameplay. Well, the thing about wisp is its commonly paired with CK in the middle lane (really, the way I prefer laning it), and it can get multiple kills on the solo midlane hero (which may or may not force a dual lane mid by the other team). Obviously, this dual lane can be ganked, but it would require two supports to rotate, and as long as the wisp ck have some sort of decent warding, they should be able to avoid ganks. CK + Wisp is somewhat flexible laning wise. | ||
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duoform
Spain5180 Posts
On February 01 2013 01:33 Unleashing wrote: LoL player friend of mine gave DotA a try and found courier to be a hassle because it took too long to change between hero and courier, i suggested just using hotkeys and he said "hotkeys are shit" I, what. And awesome with new season of starladder, always enjoyed those events. Casuals can't handle more than just a few hotkeys... I thought this was established in our minds already. I mean, even PyrionFlax can't handle it! | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:17 cecek wrote: It still says on Liquipedia that season 3 had 30,000 prizepool.Wasn't there some talk about separate online and LAN prizepool before? The article doesn't mention anything, tho. Although I'm 90% sure it was actually just the LAN prize pool of 15k. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:17 Comeh wrote: Well, the thing about wisp is its commonly paired with CK in the middle lane (really, the way I prefer laning it), and it can get multiple kills on the solo midlane hero (which may or may not force a dual lane mid by the other team). Obviously, this dual lane can be ganked, but it would require two supports to rotate, and as long as the wisp ck have some sort of decent warding, they should be able to avoid ganks. CK + Wisp is somewhat flexible laning wise. Middle dual lanes are extremely risky. Even more risky is the CK+wisp dual lane I feel since it relies a lot on high ground vision and momentum. It leaves you with two potentially weak lanes and a very tricky mid lane to shut down. If it works it is amazing but if it doesn't it's rather bad. There's no real middle ground with it. You can't just farm it out like a AM or void dual lane. | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:18 teapoted wrote: It still says on Liquipedia that season 3 had 30,000 prizepool. Although I'm 90% sure it was actually just the LAN prize pool. I guess the money goes into getting better teams there. I'm pretty sure they didn't help euro teams with accommodation and travel expenses in the first 2/3 seasons, so it was basically just CIS teams there. In the recent ones it seems better. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Defense is same shit. They've increased the pool by what? from 10k euro to 20k dollars, An increase of 50%. Even though jD's numbers are enormous now, and the prize pool is most likely supplied by sponsors. And they have absurd amounts of ticket sales. Dota prize pools are far too low for their viewership, that's just how it is. Hopefully this ESL league will change that through-out. (and as far as I'm aware, ESL pays for flights as well) | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On February 01 2013 02:10 RuskiPanda wrote: Sticky napalm should be a top ban. That skill is just way too good with how obnoxious Turn rate is. stick napalm vs mirana is so lolzy | ||
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Nub4ever
Canada1981 Posts
I don't think I've ever survived a real bat gank. Cause 90% of the time when I try to turn and stun I don't wait long enough for the turn rate reduction ;_; | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On February 01 2013 03:13 Nub4ever wrote: I don't think I've ever survived a real bat gank. Cause 90% of the time when I try to turn and stun I don't wait long enough for the turn rate reduction ;_; I think the only way to survive is to use your ulti, leap, and run in a straight line in one direction. | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
On February 01 2013 03:13 Nub4ever wrote: I don't think I've ever survived a real bat gank. Cause 90% of the time when I try to turn and stun I don't wait long enough for the turn rate reduction ;_; Can you still do back arrows with mirana? | ||
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