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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 31 2013 06:51 GMT
#40921
On January 31 2013 15:35 FinestHour wrote:
usually i just do midas into maelstrom and other stuff now with no radiance either

IMO, the only advantage of midas on Alchy is the level advantage it gives him - but I think usually building more farming items is better, as getting pure last hits on him (doesn't matter the kind) has a larger proportional increase of gold than a HoM's increase of gold would be. I guess the 30 AS is nice too, but I feel like there are better items for him.
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 31 2013 06:51 GMT
#40922
On January 31 2013 15:51 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 15:35 FinestHour wrote:
usually i just do midas into maelstrom and other stuff now with no radiance either

IMO, the only advantage of midas on Alchy is the level advantage it gives him - but I think usually building more farming items is better, as getting pure last hits on him (doesn't matter the kind) has a larger proportional increase of gold than a HoM's increase of gold would be. I guess the 30 AS is nice too, but I feel like there are better items for him.

I think the faster you can reach level 2 ult the better.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 31 2013 06:59 GMT
#40923
On January 31 2013 15:48 Dead9 wrote:
you want roh when you go mana boots and you need hp regen
that's pretty much it though

There are plenty of heroes that still want Treads when the game allows them to get it (e.g. CK).
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Bswhunter
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia954 Posts
January 31 2013 07:00 GMT
#40924
If TC becomes elder titan thats a pretty sick name change.
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Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
January 31 2013 07:34 GMT
#40925
On January 31 2013 16:00 Bswhunter wrote:
If TC becomes elder titan thats a pretty sick name change.

Where is this from?

Though that would be cool, indeed.
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tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
January 31 2013 07:54 GMT
#40926
There was something quite titanic about TC's ulti. Big cracks shooting out and exploding etc. I'm quite excited to see what TC's animations/particles will look like.
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Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 08:27:29
January 31 2013 08:23 GMT
#40927
Anyone else think that Lina's fiery soul is really good? Her attacks are like a machine gun with it.

I've been thinking about builds to abuse it and came up with maxing slave first and fiery soul second with an early point in fiery soul at lvl 3/4. Light strike has lower cd than slave so maxing it last to conserve mana seems logical. Items for a solo mid position I'm thinking bottle/wand/bracer/urn and then either maelstrom, crystalys, or diffusal blade. After that, drums and either orchid, guinsoo, or bkb is safe.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 31 2013 08:32 GMT
#40928
Even if you're going carry Lina you still want to max the nukes first. Fiery Soul is really good at the point where you have fights and can right-click things, but the burst damage/AoE from the nukes is still going to be more useful. You farm faster with Slave/LSA max than with Fiery Soul, and ganks hinge more on your immediate burst than your sustained autoattack damage by nature.

Also, Shadow Blade is a key item for carry Lina--it lets you set up solo kills really easily as suddenly appearing next to them from invis, they often don't react fast enough to dodge LSA.
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LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
January 31 2013 08:49 GMT
#40929
What boots would you go for carry lina? My friend thinks treads because more IAS and switching more more nukes while farming and more HP while fighting, I think Arcanes would be best as a sort of farming item with your nukes, and making your ult more sustainable (especially if you go into something like deso or buriza rather than going for int for damage), although I can see phase being a good choice.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 31 2013 08:51 GMT
#40930
On January 31 2013 17:49 LAN-f34r wrote:
What boots would you go for carry lina? My friend thinks treads because more IAS and switching more more nukes while farming and more HP while fighting, I think Arcanes would be best as a sort of farming item with your nukes, and making your ult more sustainable (especially if you go into something like deso or buriza rather than going for int for damage), although I can see phase being a good choice.

Phase are most common I think. You den't need any more AS, carry lina will get regen from somewhere else than boots and phase let's you position best and with your AS flat damage is best for your DPS
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 31 2013 08:51 GMT
#40931
arcanes or tread, id go arcane cuz her combo is quite costly and its nice to not have to go back to fountain after using each once
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majava
Profile Joined May 2012
Finland248 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 09:09:53
January 31 2013 09:09 GMT
#40932
I just went regular lina with arcanes. When I got really fed I went the rather standard route of wand, force drums and euls. Later on I got mjollnir and daedalus and raped their carries ezpz

Edit: Oh, and I swapped to treads later on
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
January 31 2013 09:25 GMT
#40933
Why is Demon using www.comingsoon.com name now? Sounds like ad of some premature ejaculation site o.o
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
January 31 2013 09:26 GMT
#40934
Firey soul? I think its ok. It can actually help you a surprising amount at hitting your LSA, if you fire a dragon slave first.

Don't really need to get more than 1 rank to do that though
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 09:30:31
January 31 2013 09:30 GMT
#40935
On January 31 2013 18:26 Shaella wrote:
Firey soul? I think its ok. It can actually help you a surprising amount at hitting your LSA, if you fire a dragon slave first.

Don't really need to get more than 1 rank to do that though

Wait, how does fiery soul help you land LSA? It doesn't change cast animation at all.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 31 2013 09:30 GMT
#40936
On January 31 2013 18:30 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 18:26 Shaella wrote:
Firey soul? I think its ok. It can actually help you a surprising amount at hitting your LSA, if you fire a dragon slave first.

Don't really need to get more than 1 rank to do that though

Wait, how does fiery soul help you land LSA? It doesn't change cast animation at all.

It gives you MS , which always helps
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
January 31 2013 09:34 GMT
#40937
On January 31 2013 18:30 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 18:30 Unleashing wrote:
On January 31 2013 18:26 Shaella wrote:
Firey soul? I think its ok. It can actually help you a surprising amount at hitting your LSA, if you fire a dragon slave first.

Don't really need to get more than 1 rank to do that though

Wait, how does fiery soul help you land LSA? It doesn't change cast animation at all.

It gives you MS , which always helps

Thought he meant something else, well i guess MS helps in some way, but when he says " It can actually help you a surprising amount at hitting your LSA" to me that implies helping improve your LSA accuracy. But whatever.
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Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
January 31 2013 09:53 GMT
#40938
On January 31 2013 17:51 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 17:49 LAN-f34r wrote:
What boots would you go for carry lina? My friend thinks treads because more IAS and switching more more nukes while farming and more HP while fighting, I think Arcanes would be best as a sort of farming item with your nukes, and making your ult more sustainable (especially if you go into something like deso or buriza rather than going for int for damage), although I can see phase being a good choice.

Phase are most common I think. You den't need any more AS, carry lina will get regen from somewhere else than boots and phase let's you position best and with your AS flat damage is best for your DPS

Usually when I go carry lina I'll go arcane boots then dissassemble it into bloodstone and get phase boots instead. Bloodstone might be a bit overkill but if you're doing well it gives you a lot of tankiness and you can spam your spells all day without worrying about mana. Then i usually get mkb/deso/daedalus (not necessarily in that order) for damage, I don't really see the point of getting attack speed items since you should rely on fiery soul for that. If you keep your spells going you're going to be attacking very fast already.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 31 2013 09:57 GMT
#40939
Not suprisingly, Drums are a really good item on Lina.
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 31 2013 10:07 GMT
#40940
On January 31 2013 18:25 Kaniol wrote:
Why is Demon using www.comingsoon.com name now? Sounds like ad of some premature ejaculation site o.o

he's a funny guy :p
yesterday it was 123son
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