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Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
Cocacooh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1510 Posts
January 31 2013 01:53 GMT
#40901
so ive just reinstalled my computre(got a sdd hd now woop woop) and i cant remember how to turn the size of the font on the netgraph down. would really love to get some help on this. done shit i dont know how to do allday now i need some help:>
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
January 31 2013 01:56 GMT
#40902
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Cocacooh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1510 Posts
January 31 2013 01:58 GMT
#40903
thank you<3
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
January 31 2013 02:31 GMT
#40904
Since Owned is shutting down tomorrow (today), 31st, Tobi just tweeted this:

For anyone worried about the jD VOD archive, it is all 100% backed up locally and on youtube. Defense prize pool is also 100% safe


So good news all around in the Dota world!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
January 31 2013 02:35 GMT
#40905
Why do people ever build Vanguard and SnY?
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 31 2013 02:41 GMT
#40906
you know right away that they dont browse teamliquid dota 2 general discussion, source of the best dota 2 knowledge available on the internet
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 31 2013 02:41 GMT
#40907
On January 31 2013 11:35 Shaella wrote:
Why do people ever build Vanguard and SnY?

Vanguard is still situationally good on certain hreoes and SnY is a good item after the buffs.
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dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
January 31 2013 02:46 GMT
#40908
On January 31 2013 11:41 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 11:35 Shaella wrote:
Why do people ever build Vanguard and SnY?

Vanguard is still situationally good on certain hreoes and SnY is a good item after the buffs.

SnY is decent on Barathrum, vg is russian core on balanar.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
January 31 2013 02:47 GMT
#40909
On January 31 2013 11:35 Shaella wrote:
Why do people ever build Vanguard and SnY?


Both good items depending on the situation. SnY is very good Naix imo. When you rush it on him and start joining team fights, you can usually start dominating the game.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
January 31 2013 02:47 GMT
#40910
vanguard AND SnY on Razor... you can't get more russian than that.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
January 31 2013 02:48 GMT
#40911
On January 31 2013 11:41 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 11:35 Shaella wrote:
Why do people ever build Vanguard and SnY?

Vanguard is still situationally good on certain heroes and SnY is a good item after the buffs.

I just don't see Vanguard in any situation, if you want more survival, i think its better just to buy the vit booster

I just don't think SnY gives enough benefits in any direction to be worth it, sure it has stats all over the board, but those stats tend to be things that aren't comparatively good for your hero. It feels like you'd be wiser to spend your money on a more specialized item that does what you want, instead of one item that just does a whole bunch of stuff

I think SnY is an item born from bad habits, people play carries in lower level stuff and build it when they're way ahead because they think it looks good, but in reality, you'd be better off just building a full item, rather then two tier 2 items slapped together
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 31 2013 02:54 GMT
#40912
On January 31 2013 11:47 Dreamer.T wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 11:35 Shaella wrote:
Why do people ever build Vanguard and SnY?


Both good items depending on the situation. SnY is very good Naix imo. When you rush it on him and start joining team fights, you can usually start dominating the game.


armlet does this for a lot less gold and you would dominate harder
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 03:04:45
January 31 2013 02:58 GMT
#40913
Naix is actually a hero that does lack chasing power against items like Force Staff and Ghost Scepter. The smoothest way for a hero who lacks the mobility necessary is to get 522 MS, and S&Y is one of the more practical item choices for a Strength hero that needs the movement speed.

YYF's consistent core on Naix is Phase->Janggo->Armlet->S&Y, and he's been very successful with this in both pubs and competitive games.

On January 31 2013 11:48 Shaella wrote:
I just don't see Vanguard in any situation, if you want more survival, i think its better just to buy the vit booster

You're never going to buy Vanguard in a situation where you weren't already going to buy Stout+RoH, but the immediate completion is often either necessary or useful in games where you're extremely ahead or extremely behind, when you want/need an item right now rather than needing to build up to something else.

On January 31 2013 11:48 Shaella wrote:
I just don't think SnY gives enough benefits in any direction to be worth it, sure it has stats all over the board, but those stats tend to be things that aren't comparatively good for your hero. It feels like you'd be wiser to spend your money on a more specialized item that does what you want, instead of one item that just does a whole bunch of stuff

Actually, all of S&Y's stats apply to one consistent goal: chasing/sticking power. On a lot of heroes this is totally unnecessary due to their inherent chasing power, but there are enough carries in the game who are lacking in this department to make S&Y a worthwhile buy for those heroes.
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Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
January 31 2013 03:50 GMT
#40914
So the Elder Titan texture added to the test server, that's Tauren Chieftain, right?

And I'm excited to see progress on him :D

Link to texture image
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
January 31 2013 04:35 GMT
#40915
On January 31 2013 06:05 Kipsate wrote:
I'm not a fan of the 2/2/3/3 ban system though, I liked 3/3/2/2 more.

I liked the system the moment it was announced, and I still like it after what I've seen. In general, I think that it has lead to some really good and interesting new ways of draft.
EZ4ENCE
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
January 31 2013 04:59 GMT
#40916
On January 31 2013 12:50 Saryph wrote:
So the Elder Titan texture added to the test server, that's Tauren Chieftain, right?

And I'm excited to see progress on him :D

Link to texture image


Probably TC or boss battle for tutorial. Who knows
Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
January 31 2013 05:28 GMT
#40917
On January 31 2013 10:56 Firebolt145 wrote:
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nice thanks man :3
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
January 31 2013 06:31 GMT
#40918
What do people think of mjoll on alch instead of radi? With the new 1 BAT, you can get off a lot of lighnings off which means quite fast farming, and it scales better with more items. I don't really see the point of radi as a farming item on heroes without illusions - since you have to be there anyway, a BF or mael/mjoll gives similar benefits to radi and scales better into DPS.

On January 31 2013 11:58 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 11:48 Shaella wrote:
I just don't see Vanguard in any situation, if you want more survival, i think its better just to buy the vit booster

You're never going to buy Vanguard in a situation where you weren't already going to buy Stout+RoH, but the immediate completion is often either necessary or useful in games where you're extremely ahead or extremely behind, when you want/need an item right now rather than needing to build up to something else.


When do you want RoH though? Tranquil boots replaces the need for going RoH unless you are building the RoH into something else (ie BF or hood), in which case you can't use it for vanguard anyway.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 31 2013 06:35 GMT
#40919
usually i just do midas into maelstrom and other stuff now with no radiance either
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
January 31 2013 06:48 GMT
#40920
you want roh when you go mana boots and you need hp regen
that's pretty much it though
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