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lazyitachi
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
1043 Posts
January 24 2013 05:44 GMT
#39561
Well, we know that making memes and threads on reddit can resolve this issue.

Remember the construction meme for OD?

I think devourer was also one of the suggested names for OD.

Incoming BristleBog renamed to Bristle ><
tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 06:11:19
January 24 2013 06:08 GMT
#39562
Bristlebog.... In Australia, bog is slang for 'shit' :S
Road to 6sange
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
January 24 2013 06:12 GMT
#39563
Isn't bog slavic for god? Maybe he'll pick up an accent, like Tusk.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
January 24 2013 06:37 GMT
#39564
A little question from someone who just got a beta-key from a friend.

Is the matchmaking any good at the lower levels for someone who never has played an ARTS before?
EZ4ENCE
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 24 2013 06:41 GMT
#39565
On January 24 2013 15:37 WindWolf wrote:
A little question from someone who just got a beta-key from a friend.

Is the matchmaking any good at the lower levels for someone who never has played an ARTS before?

I mean, I only played a little bit of LoL, and came in a COMPLETE noob, and it worked out okay. If he's never played ARTS before, tell him to play some bot games to get used to how it works, and then when he understands some basics, to move over to low matchmaking.
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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
January 24 2013 06:43 GMT
#39566
On January 24 2013 15:41 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 15:37 WindWolf wrote:
A little question from someone who just got a beta-key from a friend.

Is the matchmaking any good at the lower levels for someone who never has played an ARTS before?

I mean, I only played a little bit of LoL, and came in a COMPLETE noob, and it worked out okay. If he's never played ARTS before, tell him to play some bot games to get used to how it works, and then when he understands some basics, to move over to low matchmaking.

I was the one getting the key, not my friend. I'm the complete ARTS-noob :p

I was planning playing with bots anyway, but thanks
EZ4ENCE
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
January 24 2013 06:48 GMT
#39567
On January 24 2013 13:15 tauon wrote:
A level 1, Crystal Maiden will attack about twice per second (attack speed of ~.54s) with that aura.


How does Chemical Rage act with Battle Trance? Is it amazing? I bet it's amazing
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
January 24 2013 06:52 GMT
#39568
I can confirm its hillarimazing

Honestly, I think Alch is kinda underrated as a hero right now
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
January 24 2013 07:16 GMT
#39569
He's really not; the only thing people use him for is to top the GPM charts for the week.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
January 24 2013 07:25 GMT
#39570
i dunno man, he farms up pretty absurdly fast, and 1.0 BAT, 60hp regen a sec, 60 movespeed and a boatload of health? That ult man
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 24 2013 07:55 GMT
#39571
alch already hits max attack speed with like 2 items
he doesnt even need trance
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
January 24 2013 08:06 GMT
#39572
On January 24 2013 16:55 FinestHour wrote:
alch already hits max attack speed with like 2 items
he doesnt even need trance

Max attack speed? As far as I know the (dota1) max attack speed was max ias, not attack time.

And pubs are so stupid at playing alchemist. Pick a hero that gives more gold the more creeps you kill, and buy an item which gives a constant gpm increase instead of an item which allows you to kill creeps faster. Pick a hero that is supposed to be a natural tank (with a little armor), and buy a shadow blade on him.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
January 24 2013 08:11 GMT
#39573
On January 24 2013 17:06 igotmyown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 16:55 FinestHour wrote:
alch already hits max attack speed with like 2 items
he doesnt even need trance

Max attack speed? As far as I know the (dota1) max attack speed was max ias, not attack time.

And pubs are so stupid at playing alchemist. Pick a hero that gives more gold the more creeps you kill, and buy an item which gives a constant gpm increase instead of an item which allows you to kill creeps faster. Pick a hero that is supposed to be a natural tank (with a little armor), and buy a shadow blade on him.

Pubs like to max greevil's greed last.

I honestly think that bfury is really the way to go on him, farm like a boss. Though with a Mjollnir you can clear the jungle creeps in under a minute, assuming an average of 3 creeps per a camp, that adds up to an additional 450 gpm, you can probably clear it at a similar rate with bfury
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
January 24 2013 08:14 GMT
#39574
On January 24 2013 15:43 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 15:41 Comeh wrote:
On January 24 2013 15:37 WindWolf wrote:
A little question from someone who just got a beta-key from a friend.

Is the matchmaking any good at the lower levels for someone who never has played an ARTS before?

I mean, I only played a little bit of LoL, and came in a COMPLETE noob, and it worked out okay. If he's never played ARTS before, tell him to play some bot games to get used to how it works, and then when he understands some basics, to move over to low matchmaking.

I was the one getting the key, not my friend. I'm the complete ARTS-noob :p

I was planning playing with bots anyway, but thanks

A friend of mine started playing fairly recently (about 2 months) ago. According to him the first ~10-20 games are a bit rough but it gets better quite quickly after that. (He had played a fair amount of war3 and CoH before then).
Road to 6sange
SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
January 24 2013 08:33 GMT
#39575
On January 24 2013 16:25 Shaella wrote:
i dunno man, he farms up pretty absurdly fast, and 1.0 BAT, 60hp regen a sec, 60 movespeed and a boatload of health? That ult man

he is easly countered by naga. And if you are going to pick an alch in competitive chances are you won't ban naga because its a waste.

Also he isn't really that strong till his third item, which can take ages
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 24 2013 08:34 GMT
#39576
On January 24 2013 17:06 igotmyown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 16:55 FinestHour wrote:
alch already hits max attack speed with like 2 items
he doesnt even need trance

Max attack speed? As far as I know the (dota1) max attack speed was max ias, not attack time.

And pubs are so stupid at playing alchemist. Pick a hero that gives more gold the more creeps you kill, and buy an item which gives a constant gpm increase instead of an item which allows you to kill creeps faster. Pick a hero that is supposed to be a natural tank (with a little armor), and buy a shadow blade on him.


The attack speed cap in wc3 is 400% increase. It's very rare you hit that in dota though although I haven't seen troll with this new global ult before. He used to just have self bloodlust ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
January 24 2013 08:34 GMT
#39577
Shit, the panda for LD! Man, does that look amazing ...
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
January 24 2013 08:47 GMT
#39578
On January 24 2013 17:33 SirMilford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 16:25 Shaella wrote:
i dunno man, he farms up pretty absurdly fast, and 1.0 BAT, 60hp regen a sec, 60 movespeed and a boatload of health? That ult man

he is easly countered by naga. And if you are going to pick an alch in competitive chances are you won't ban naga because its a waste.

Also he isn't really that strong till his third item, which can take ages

He can easily get 3 items by 28 minutes, his farming capability is INSANE
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 24 2013 08:53 GMT
#39579
There are a lot of carries that become insane by 28 minutes.

Unfortunately we're playing a game where carries need to be doing things 10-15 minutes earlier than that.
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ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
January 24 2013 08:57 GMT
#39580
On January 24 2013 17:34 Testuser wrote:
Shit, the panda for LD! Man, does that look amazing ...


Yeah, I'm going to have to start playing Sylla just to get that panda.
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