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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 24 2013 03:09 GMT
#39541
On January 24 2013 12:03 tauon wrote:
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On January 24 2013 11:55 Ognam wrote:
Can someone explain to me how tournament item drops work? Mostly want to know if I buy a ticket for some tournament, am I only eligible to receive drops for spectating matches live? Or can I watch games later and still receive items?

Also, do pennants alter the frequency of getting drops?

You need to be watching live. When a team, for which you own a pennant, does something noteworthy, you have a chance to receive a cosmetic items. Works for all tournaments iirc


You don't need a pendant anymore. You just have to be a live spectator.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
BeanerBurrito
Profile Joined December 2010
1010 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 03:12:41
January 24 2013 03:11 GMT
#39542
On January 24 2013 12:08 tauon wrote:
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On January 24 2013 12:03 BeanerBurrito wrote:
On January 24 2013 11:41 majava wrote:
On January 24 2013 11:26 BeanerBurrito wrote:
On January 24 2013 11:23 Unleashing wrote:
But i played him in DotA1 after his rework, and i played him in DotA2 just today.
He's as powerful as he was in DotA1, not more. Because you know, he's the same hero.

Troll isn't OP at all, he still has massive weaknesses and flaws.


He's squishy, lots of heroes are squishy, I guess he only relies on his auto attack (except for his two separate aoe nukes that apply a slow and a blind respectively). What other massive weaknesses or flaws does he have?

And he does feel WAY better mechanically in dota 2 than in dota 1, you can really abuse his range much more easily and effectively in dota 2.

I mean i could have exaggerated on "omg wtf op nerf" but I really do think he will see more use in the near future, just predicting i guess.


Troll in his current form won't be picked in comp game. Ever.


Why not? Just curious, everyone says "nope not ever" but no reasons for why.

I think it is a combination of the face that he is relatively squishy, has a very long cast duration (like lesh if i remember correctly) and he is fairly easy to kite. I think it is mainly the same reasons that Ursa isn't picked at competitive level.


That's what i'm saying about him in dota 2 being much much better.

His mechanics are so responsive you cannot be kited, you can switch to ranged literally as they exit melee, and back to melee as they enter melee again.

His ultimate got buffed a lot, 10 seconds of +60/120/180% attack speed globally on a 20 second cooldown, imagine your whole team pushing a tower every 20 seconds, or dominating a team fight.

Squishy maybe, kiteable? not anymore, he has a freaking ranged aoe slow and ranged attack, he can kite people if he wants.
What they say: "I'm gonna play support!" What they mean: "I'm gonna feed all game!"
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
January 24 2013 03:11 GMT
#39543
On January 24 2013 11:53 funcmode wrote:
From cyborgmatt

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Bristleback has now been officially renamed to Bristlebog.

"npc_dota_hero_bristleback" "Bristlebog"


=/


Wow. Why?
tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
January 24 2013 03:16 GMT
#39544
On January 24 2013 12:11 ControlMonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 11:53 funcmode wrote:
From cyborgmatt

Bristleback has now been officially renamed to Bristlebog.

"npc_dota_hero_bristleback" "Bristlebog"


=/


Wow. Why?

http://www.wowpedia.org/Bristleback_Hunter

blizzard IP

Bristleback is a much cooler name tham Bristlebog
Road to 6sange
lazyitachi
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
1043 Posts
January 24 2013 03:24 GMT
#39545
Think troll might work in a push lineup for that extra cheese..
But as a true carry.. pales in comparison to many other heores.

As I said, super pub stomper for those noobs who stray away from their team but in a real team fight.. his contribution is not that strong.. the nukes are not going to hit that much cos you are not likely to get into that kind of position.
The ult is mainly to benefit himself to get the passive going to proc more bashes...

Well.. guess I ll go try him tonight on the test client just to see how he feels..
BeanerBurrito
Profile Joined December 2010
1010 Posts
January 24 2013 03:52 GMT
#39546
On January 24 2013 12:24 lazyitachi wrote:
Think troll might work in a push lineup for that extra cheese..
But as a true carry.. pales in comparison to many other heores.

As I said, super pub stomper for those noobs who stray away from their team but in a real team fight.. his contribution is not that strong.. the nukes are not going to hit that much cos you are not likely to get into that kind of position.
The ult is mainly to benefit himself to get the passive going to proc more bashes...

Well.. guess I ll go try him tonight on the test client just to see how he feels..


I personally didn't have a problem landing my nukes, huge aoe, and when i was even close to melee range my melee axes hit. I even felt like the melee axes were reliable, and the ranged axes I think i might've missed one, but that was more user error and i believe you can be pretty much perfect with them.

The ult is huge on all heroes seriously, if you have any type of carry teammate, or even a few non carry teammates the dps is enormous really. Someone wanna do some math to say how much exactly?
What they say: "I'm gonna play support!" What they mean: "I'm gonna feed all game!"
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 24 2013 04:04 GMT
#39547
3 hyperstones 2 gloves of haste good cd are nothing to scoff at
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tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 04:15:58
January 24 2013 04:15 GMT
#39548
A level 1, Crystal Maiden will attack about twice per second (attack speed of ~.54s) with that aura.
Road to 6sange
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
January 24 2013 04:28 GMT
#39549
I can see him ran as like a 3rd position, build the standard cheap build, phase drums, you'll contribute a fair amount of damage while buffing your carry, his slow/blind is pretty decent to boot.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
January 24 2013 04:31 GMT
#39550
On January 24 2013 13:28 Shaella wrote:
I can see him ran as like a 3rd position, build the standard cheap build, phase drums, you'll contribute a fair amount of damage while buffing your carry, his slow/blind is pretty decent to boot.

He can't jungle or offlane and he's a mediocre solo mid if I remember correctly. I'm not sure where you could run him if not the protected farmer on the safe lane.
Road to 6sange
Bswhunter
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia954 Posts
January 24 2013 04:32 GMT
#39551
Can someone tell me how Skywrath mage is played?

From the little I saw of him in dota 1, he seemed like a weaker version of outworld destoryer. Carry int, relying on mana/skills to do stuff. He just seems weaker then OD and countered harder by BKB/magic resist.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 24 2013 04:37 GMT
#39552
On January 24 2013 13:32 Bswhunter wrote:
Can someone tell me how Skywrath mage is played?

From the little I saw of him in dota 1, he seemed like a weaker version of outworld destoryer. Carry int, relying on mana/skills to do stuff. He just seems weaker then OD and countered harder by BKB/magic resist.

It's actually better to compare him to Zeus--except instead of being a mediocre solo laner, he's one of the best laners in the game (often top ban in 1v1 tournaments).

He has the potential to be quite good as a solo mid gank/teamfight hero. OD isn't an appropriate comparison because OD's baseline damage is weaker--OD is far more dependent on levels/items to get his damage to strong levels, whereas Skywrath Mage's baseline damage is high enough to secure his midgame fighting/ganking ability (again, like Zeus).
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tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
January 24 2013 04:38 GMT
#39553
On January 24 2013 13:32 Bswhunter wrote:
Can someone tell me how Skywrath mage is played?

From the little I saw of him in dota 1, he seemed like a weaker version of outworld destoryer. Carry int, relying on mana/skills to do stuff. He just seems weaker then OD and countered harder by BKB/magic resist.

I saw him played a little bit in the GEST. The two games that I remember he was played once in a trilane and once solo mid. Can't remember much else
Road to 6sange
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
January 24 2013 04:43 GMT
#39554
On January 24 2013 13:31 tauon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 13:28 Shaella wrote:
I can see him ran as like a 3rd position, build the standard cheap build, phase drums, you'll contribute a fair amount of damage while buffing your carry, his slow/blind is pretty decent to boot.

He can't jungle or offlane and he's a mediocre solo mid if I remember correctly. I'm not sure where you could run him if not the protected farmer on the safe lane.

I think the two axes skills combined with all the bonus stats on his Q he gets from just one level of it, he could put up a pretty decent toplane.

His manacosts for both are cheap cheap, and his base MS is like 320 with Q, pretty high.

On the other hand, he does lack a good escape
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 24 2013 04:48 GMT
#39555
On January 24 2013 12:16 tauon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 12:11 ControlMonkey wrote:
On January 24 2013 11:53 funcmode wrote:
From cyborgmatt

Bristleback has now been officially renamed to Bristlebog.

"npc_dota_hero_bristleback" "Bristlebog"


=/


Wow. Why?

http://www.wowpedia.org/Bristleback_Hunter

blizzard IP

Bristleback is a much cooler name tham Bristlebog

well i can imagine some kind of community initiative for a better name coming soon
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 24 2013 04:51 GMT
#39556
if anyone can PM me about how to set up pictures in a nice organized way with captions for a little blog about wgf it would be greatly appreciated
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
BeanerBurrito
Profile Joined December 2010
1010 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 04:57:03
January 24 2013 04:56 GMT
#39557
On January 24 2013 13:43 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 13:31 tauon wrote:
On January 24 2013 13:28 Shaella wrote:
I can see him ran as like a 3rd position, build the standard cheap build, phase drums, you'll contribute a fair amount of damage while buffing your carry, his slow/blind is pretty decent to boot.

He can't jungle or offlane and he's a mediocre solo mid if I remember correctly. I'm not sure where you could run him if not the protected farmer on the safe lane.

I think the two axes skills combined with all the bonus stats on his Q he gets from just one level of it, he could put up a pretty decent toplane.

His manacosts for both are cheap cheap, and his base MS is like 320 with Q, pretty high.

On the other hand, he does lack a good escape


try safe lane with a support?

or trilane even

You can farm any opposing hero, while giving a free farm lane to troll and push with his ultimate and fervor on towers and his aoe nuke that clears creep waves.
What they say: "I'm gonna play support!" What they mean: "I'm gonna feed all game!"
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
January 24 2013 05:02 GMT
#39558
On January 24 2013 13:48 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 12:16 tauon wrote:
On January 24 2013 12:11 ControlMonkey wrote:
On January 24 2013 11:53 funcmode wrote:
From cyborgmatt

Bristleback has now been officially renamed to Bristlebog.

"npc_dota_hero_bristleback" "Bristlebog"


=/


Wow. Why?

http://www.wowpedia.org/Bristleback_Hunter

blizzard IP

Bristleback is a much cooler name tham Bristlebog

well i can imagine some kind of community initiative for a better name coming soon


Valve can always change the name down the road--nothing is stopping them from doing so. If it is very hated than they could change it, but I do not see it as such a problem but that is just me.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
January 24 2013 05:07 GMT
#39559
let's be honest, bristlebog sounds awful
ffxiv enjoyer
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
January 24 2013 05:24 GMT
#39560
On January 24 2013 14:07 DoNotDisturb wrote:
let's be honest, bristlebog sounds awful


It is awful. Who came up with that name.
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