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Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 01:46:23
January 24 2013 01:45 GMT
#39501
well this was the closest game I've ever had, we had mid rax down with a naked ancient vs amazing push team. We just had too much teamfight for them in the end. If you look at the culmative exp/gold/kills etc figures for both teams it really could have gone either way. Really intense. Meepo > PL errday. When MM works it really really works

https://dotabuff.com/matches/106542207
(I'm ES)

+ Show Spoiler +
we would have lost at 40mins if PL had made a heart instead of vanguard after diffu lol


BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
January 24 2013 01:47 GMT
#39502
On January 24 2013 10:40 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 10:35 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Rating is not the be all end all, but the plateaus of rating matter significantly. You will never see a professional sc2 player below GM, and you will never see a professional LoL player under 2k ELO. Whether it's +-100 from someone else does not determine who is better, but if it's +-300 they are definitely better.

In any case it doesn't matter because the DBR system specifically was not trying to spur more competitive matches, it was only there to show people where they were roughly at in terms of skill. A ranked ladder system would however be more competitive than what we have now.

Pubs are highly competitive and should be serious business at all times. Otherwise who knows what could happen, someone might even have fun.


The mmr of showing X stack vs Y randoms or half stack surely is as meaningful as Dendi's stats back when he played on battlenet! Or like someone said above it is totally unacceptable that some people tend to try some new build etc in pubs.

That said, when team mm is implemented then team mmr should be made visible by Valve.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
January 24 2013 01:54 GMT
#39503
Hi guys

Just wondering...my friend gave me a gift on steam, and it was dota 2. I then checked google/wikipedia and saw that Dota 2 is not officially released yet....??

If so, then when will it be released? I am confused, there is no release date, and somehow I feel like the game HAS been released lol...
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 01:55:44
January 24 2013 01:54 GMT
#39504
The problem with team MM ladder being the focal point is that

1. If you suck, it's pointless. You need to work on getting yourself better before being put into an environment like that. (EE's words, not just mine).

2. It promotes playing the same role over and over.

3. Personality clashing over extended periods of time.

4. It's nearly impossible to get 5 people together to play for extended periods of time. Seriously, even pros who do nothing but play dota have standins for tournaments and some rarely scrim. You think your trashcan, ragtag group of 5 with a player who goes to college and works is gonna make it to play several games a day? Hell, even once a day?

and 5. How the hell are you gonna get 5 people your skill level unless you already know them and KNOW they are at your skill level because you've played with them many, many times.
BeanerBurrito
Profile Joined December 2010
1010 Posts
January 24 2013 01:56 GMT
#39505
Played troll on the test client, I think he will make a great transition to dota 2, unfortunately i think he will be too good and probably get nerfed after hes added.
What they say: "I'm gonna play support!" What they mean: "I'm gonna feed all game!"
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 24 2013 01:58 GMT
#39506
On January 24 2013 10:54 dynwar7 wrote:
Hi guys

Just wondering...my friend gave me a gift on steam, and it was dota 2. I then checked google/wikipedia and saw that Dota 2 is not officially released yet....??

If so, then when will it be released? I am confused, there is no release date, and somehow I feel like the game HAS been released lol...

Just incase its confusing - the game is in beta, but in a highly functional, small amount of bugs beta. Its completely playable if you got a key.
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dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
January 24 2013 01:59 GMT
#39507
On January 24 2013 10:58 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 10:54 dynwar7 wrote:
Hi guys

Just wondering...my friend gave me a gift on steam, and it was dota 2. I then checked google/wikipedia and saw that Dota 2 is not officially released yet....??

If so, then when will it be released? I am confused, there is no release date, and somehow I feel like the game HAS been released lol...

Just incase its confusing - the game is in beta, but in a highly functional, small amount of bugs beta. Its completely playable if you got a key.


Oh wow...all this time and its still in beta = /


Well, i got a gift on steam from a friend, without key, not sure if I can play.

So approximately when is the release date then?
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 24 2013 02:01 GMT
#39508
On January 24 2013 10:45 Klonere wrote:
well this was the closest game I've ever had, we had mid rax down with a naked ancient vs amazing push team. We just had too much teamfight for them in the end. If you look at the culmative exp/gold/kills etc figures for both teams it really could have gone either way. Really intense. Meepo > PL errday. When MM works it really really works

https://dotabuff.com/matches/106542207
(I'm ES)

+ Show Spoiler +
we would have lost at 40mins if PL had made a heart instead of vanguard after diffu lol



a pl with no heart is not a real pl
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
January 24 2013 02:01 GMT
#39509
On January 24 2013 11:01 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 10:45 Klonere wrote:
well this was the closest game I've ever had, we had mid rax down with a naked ancient vs amazing push team. We just had too much teamfight for them in the end. If you look at the culmative exp/gold/kills etc figures for both teams it really could have gone either way. Really intense. Meepo > PL errday. When MM works it really really works

https://dotabuff.com/matches/106542207
(I'm ES)

+ Show Spoiler +
we would have lost at 40mins if PL had made a heart instead of vanguard after diffu lol



a pl with no heart is not a real pl


Yeah, the first thing i saw also. Really would've been a different game if PL had a heart, i think.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
January 24 2013 02:03 GMT
#39510
On January 24 2013 10:59 dynwar7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 10:58 Comeh wrote:
On January 24 2013 10:54 dynwar7 wrote:
Hi guys

Just wondering...my friend gave me a gift on steam, and it was dota 2. I then checked google/wikipedia and saw that Dota 2 is not officially released yet....??

If so, then when will it be released? I am confused, there is no release date, and somehow I feel like the game HAS been released lol...

Just incase its confusing - the game is in beta, but in a highly functional, small amount of bugs beta. Its completely playable if you got a key.


Oh wow...all this time and its still in beta = /


Well, i got a gift on steam from a friend, without key, not sure if I can play.

So approximately when is the release date then?


We do not know--the main reasoning behind it still being in beta is that the infrastructure is not ready. I remember there is a FAQ from Valve where they even state that they do not even view DotA 2 as being beta per se. But yeah, if you got the gift of dota 2, than you should be fine. There are plenty of people with keys to give away as gift or trade out there.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 24 2013 02:04 GMT
#39511
On January 24 2013 10:59 dynwar7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 10:58 Comeh wrote:
On January 24 2013 10:54 dynwar7 wrote:
Hi guys

Just wondering...my friend gave me a gift on steam, and it was dota 2. I then checked google/wikipedia and saw that Dota 2 is not officially released yet....??

If so, then when will it be released? I am confused, there is no release date, and somehow I feel like the game HAS been released lol...

Just incase its confusing - the game is in beta, but in a highly functional, small amount of bugs beta. Its completely playable if you got a key.


Oh wow...all this time and its still in beta = /


Well, i got a gift on steam from a friend, without key, not sure if I can play.

So approximately when is the release date then?

Do you want a key? I have like 6.
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Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 02:07:57
January 24 2013 02:06 GMT
#39512
What Valve could do is have a MM profile where you prioritize the roles you're confident at and have teams queue with an even distribution of roles. In this system, queuing with friends could still be allowed but perhaps with the catch of getting less mmr per win compared to a random team. In-game tournaments, whenever that gets implemented, should be stacks only. Public tournament only chat channels separated by mmr would also need to be added for random people to find each other for that.
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
January 24 2013 02:07 GMT
#39513
Bristlebog... I usually don't care about fluff shit but he better be a spiny-ass pig swinging a mace....
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 02:09:36
January 24 2013 02:08 GMT
#39514
On January 24 2013 11:01 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 10:45 Klonere wrote:
well this was the closest game I've ever had, we had mid rax down with a naked ancient vs amazing push team. We just had too much teamfight for them in the end. If you look at the culmative exp/gold/kills etc figures for both teams it really could have gone either way. Really intense. Meepo > PL errday. When MM works it really really works

https://dotabuff.com/matches/106542207
(I'm ES)

+ Show Spoiler +
we would have lost at 40mins if PL had made a heart instead of vanguard after diffu lol



a pl with no heart is not a real pl


Vanguard and Daedalus are wasted items I feel. I know Heart would be good, but what should be a 6th slot item? Abyssal, Cuirass, MKB? If MKB, does that means his illusions won't miss too?
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 02:11:05
January 24 2013 02:09 GMT
#39515
the vanguard shouldnt have been there, you want items that pump your illusions up to mlg420 status aka heart crit diffusal butterfly manta and then boot

like the guys build was almost perfect but vanguard is such a horrid piece of garbage
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
January 24 2013 02:10 GMT
#39516
Is the panda skin of LD's bear actually going to make it to China clients?
To Skeleton King: "Have you considered employment at Apple?"
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
January 24 2013 02:10 GMT
#39517
On January 24 2013 11:09 FinestHour wrote:
the vanguard shouldnt have been there, you want items that pump your illusions up to mlg420 status aka heart crit diffusal butterfly manta and then boot


Illusions don't crit I thought?
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 24 2013 02:10 GMT
#39518
On January 24 2013 11:08 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 11:01 FinestHour wrote:
On January 24 2013 10:45 Klonere wrote:
well this was the closest game I've ever had, we had mid rax down with a naked ancient vs amazing push team. We just had too much teamfight for them in the end. If you look at the culmative exp/gold/kills etc figures for both teams it really could have gone either way. Really intense. Meepo > PL errday. When MM works it really really works

https://dotabuff.com/matches/106542207
(I'm ES)

+ Show Spoiler +
we would have lost at 40mins if PL had made a heart instead of vanguard after diffu lol



a pl with no heart is not a real pl


Vanguard and Daedalus are wasted items I feel. I know Heart would be good, but what should be a 6th slot item? Abyssal, Cuirass, MKB? If MKB, does that means his illusions won't miss too?

Daedalus is a good last slot item after BoTs I think.
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lazyitachi
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
1043 Posts
January 24 2013 02:10 GMT
#39519
On January 24 2013 10:56 BeanerBurrito wrote:
Played troll on the test client, I think he will make a great transition to dota 2, unfortunately i think he will be too good and probably get nerfed after hes added.



whut............ You do know it's like a SUPER old hero right? Meaning every possible build and skill has most likely been used.
He is so squishy and easy to shut down.

Definitely not OP.. just a regular pub stomper like a fed sniper/ riki :S
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 24 2013 02:11 GMT
#39520
On January 24 2013 11:10 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 11:09 FinestHour wrote:
the vanguard shouldnt have been there, you want items that pump your illusions up to mlg420 status aka heart crit diffusal butterfly manta and then boot


Illusions don't crit I thought?


illusions do crit, just not for the full amount that is shown
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
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