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igotmyown

United States4291 Posts

January 23 2013 00:04 GMT

#39081

What's wrong with forcing fights with radiance before the enemies can get more hp/pipe and such? It's not like a battle fury timing where right after you get it you still die instantly in fights, since your illusions are doing a lot of the damage.

Blitzkrieg0

United States13132 Posts

January 23 2013 00:06 GMT

#39082

On January 23 2013 09:04 igotmyown wrote:
What's wrong with forcing fights with radiance before the enemies can get more hp/pipe and such? It's not like a battle fury timing where right after you get it you still die instantly in fights, since your illusions are doing a lot of the damage.

Because your farming rate explodes when you pick up radiance. Radiance is a farming item so you farm with it.

You also die instantly in team fights with a naked radiance. Unless your plan is to just lance in illusions that die from random aoe...

r.Evo

Germany14081 Posts

January 23 2013 00:07 GMT

#39083

A PL with a naked radiance is squishy as hell and doesn't deal that much damage (only thing illusions benefit from the Radiance is the burn and that doesn't even stack). Radiance on PL is a strong item because it allows you to farm really quickly and keep lanes permapushed, it's not a fighting item.

For midgame agression drum/aquila -> diffusal is a much stronger build.

FinestHour

United States18466 Posts

January 23 2013 00:08 GMT

#39084

you can still get killed very easily with the radiance, but that completely changes in only a few minutes once you get a heart

Erasme

Bahamas15899 Posts

January 23 2013 00:12 GMT

#39085

radi/heart/BoT
suddenly 800gpm

Esoterikk

Canada1256 Posts

January 23 2013 00:15 GMT

#39086

Hit 50% W/L today with 272 w and 272 l. Time to never play again and die happy :D

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

January 23 2013 00:19 GMT

#39087

On January 23 2013 09:12 Erasme wrote:
radi/heart/BoT
suddenly 800gpm

Heart don't make you farm faster. Obv Manta Diffusal BFly first then get Heart when you want to end the fun.

JazzNL

182 Posts

January 23 2013 00:25 GMT

#39088

Sigh, why did I get bumped to the low priority pool for getting abused by 3 angry russian teenagers? When dota2 goes live they really need to fix this. Right now you get 3 sad little children teaming up, playing dota with the mindset of 'let's go and flame our allies', and if you don't do exactly what they want, exactly when they want exactly the way they want you to do it they as a collective report you for absolutely no reason besides them being out to seek and cause trouble, instead of just playing a game of dota to actually enjoy it.

It really frustrates me how I get punished for doing the right thing the entire game, they're the ones ruining the game and will not see punishment.

Comeh

United States18919 Posts

January 23 2013 00:27 GMT

#39089

Random question on how deso works with Weaver - because weaver's second attack is literally just a repeat of the damage incurred by the first attack, does this mean that it wouldn't get reduced by the minus armor? Or, does it actually only account for the minus armor once the attack hits (and isn't a literal repeat of the first attack)

Firebolt145

Lalalaland34505 Posts

January 23 2013 00:34 GMT

#39090

Deso applies the minus armor before the attack so your very first attack already does the increased damage from the minus armor.

trinxified

Canada7774 Posts

January 23 2013 00:45 GMT

#39091

BTW, DBR (DotaBuff Rating) will be live in 3 days: https://dotabuff.com/polls/dotabuff-rating

sneak peak: https://dotabuff.com/pages/dbr

Is this the same MMR Valve uses? Or is it completely separate data?

Firebolt145

Lalalaland34505 Posts

January 23 2013 00:46 GMT

#39092

This can go well or can go horribly wrong, and if it goes wrong it'll be pretty tough to simply say 'k we're closing this down'. I don't like this.

Blitzkrieg0

United States13132 Posts

January 23 2013 00:47 GMT

#39093

On January 23 2013 09:45 trinxified wrote:
BTW, DBR (DotaBuff Rating) will be live in 3 days: https://dotabuff.com/polls/dotabuff-rating

sneak peak: https://dotabuff.com/pages/dbr

Is this the same MMR Valve uses? Or is it completely separate data?

It is not the MMR value Valve uses although they should have a pretty accurate representation considering they've been stat tracking for months. They don't have the exact model, but it should be good enough that for all intents and purposes it is the exact model.

Itsmedudeman

United States19229 Posts

January 23 2013 00:52 GMT

#39094

On January 23 2013 09:46 Firebolt145 wrote:
This can go well or can go horribly wrong, and if it goes wrong it'll be pretty tough to simply say 'k we're closing this down'. I don't like this.

Doubt it will ever go down. They're a 3rd party site right? In the end it's up to the community on how they react, but this will only increase the amount of people who visit their site. In terms of gaining popularity this is gonna catapult them to a god tier dota-based website and secure a user base before dota launches.

Firebolt145

Lalalaland34505 Posts

January 23 2013 00:57 GMT

#39095

What I mean is that if it ends up making the community worse (your MMR is worse than mine, you play support and you're at fault if we lose etc) then it'll be hard for dotabuff to take back something that they've given to the community.

Itsmedudeman

United States19229 Posts

January 23 2013 01:04 GMT

#39096

Well, it turns out it's going to be public. I honestly would prefer that if they were going to be public, then it's hid to members below a certain threshold percentile by default or if someone doesn't want their DBR to be public. I was all for the DBR rating system, but only if a person wanted to participate in the ranking system.

Unleashing

Denmark14978 Posts

January 23 2013 01:09 GMT

#39097

It should be a very simple option, "do you want to display your DBR publicly?"
I still think it's a god awful idea to display more information to the public.

dfs

Russian Federation4050 Posts

January 23 2013 01:09 GMT

#39098

Dota 2's (any ARTS game) matchmaking sometimes (a lot of times) creates imballanced teams. That itself shows how accurate any rating systems are for this type of games. It is necessary to the game but still inaccurate.
Doesn't change the fact that some people want to brag about their penis being longer even though the ruler is defective.

cecek

Czech Republic18921 Posts

January 23 2013 01:12 GMT

#39099

Ugh... I'm surprised how the poll ended. I thought most people were for making it hidden. Also, they seem to be launching some additional premium paid content on dotabuff.

DeltaX

United States287 Posts

January 23 2013 01:25 GMT

#39100

From reading what they posted, it sounds like looking at the MMR of other players will be a paid feature while just logging in will allow you to check your own MMR.

I still wish it was private/not implemented tho, I like not worrying about rating. People suddenly start acting like jerks when internet points are on the line.