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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 23 2013 10:38 Tyrran wrote: Does this mean that accessing other people DBR will require a 'premium account'? Or am I just over thinking this :p Pretty clever, TBH. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
"Well, I'm so much into DotA 2 that I even pay to receive proper analysis on my play, that gives me another reason to tell you that, based on your DBR, you are an asshole who can't farm. Now go fucking play support. Please." Hmmmm.... pretty sure it's going to be a success. The proper response to any and all DBR talk ingame shall be "lol u use lolking lol"! | ||
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lazyitachi
1043 Posts
On January 23 2013 11:30 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: They have over a year of match histories to base their model on. It isn't like they set out to derive Valve's MMR system. Obviously out should somehow approximate valve s. Like sc2 3rd party mmr can be back tested by user feedback on promotion and league. Since everything is derivative and bayesian, if it is just their own guess without any check for consistency then meh | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On January 23 2013 12:20 lazyitachi wrote: Obviously out should somehow approximate valve s. Like sc2 3rd party mmr can be back tested by user feedback on promotion and league. Since everything is derivative and bayesian, if it is just their own guess without any check for consistency then meh It is going to be close, just not exact. There is also no way to possibly derive Valve's mmr system since they don't have anything to track it with. They state explicitly that it was checked for consistency, but there is a world of difference between being close and exact. Being exact is pretty much impossible unless the system itself is leaked or somebody can notice a trend. However, there is nothing to notice a trend on because no sort of data is actually displayed by the client. You might be able to do something with where a user appears on the watch list, but you have no other data source to compare it to and make inferences from. The sc2 mmr was derived because they released top 200 data and trends were noticed between those rankings and the official values in the game. Sc2 mmr is accurate on third party sites because the exact way to calculate it is known. There is no guesswork in calculating your sc2 mmr. | ||
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Cool Cat
United States1644 Posts
I think the skill bracket (diamond, platinum, etc.) will be public, because the verdict of the poll was public. The exact DBR will probably be private though, unless of course you have Dotabuff Plus. | ||
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tauon
Australia1278 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
On January 23 2013 12:49 tauon wrote: If you don't want anyone knowing your DBR in a pub game, the most obvious solution is to delete your profile picture and set your profile name to something extremely common. It would be like finding a John Smith in the phone book. Doesn't work since it's impossible to hide your steam id. | ||
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tauon
Australia1278 Posts
On January 23 2013 12:52 r.Evo wrote: Doesn't work since it's impossible to hide your steam id.  (((((((That sucks | ||
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ViZe
United States1513 Posts
why would it matter if they can see yours if yours is like the same as theirs unless pub people think the menial differences in numbers actually accurately represents skill differentials rather than the current win/loss streak even lol people don't think like that though. worst player in lol usually is forced to play something only because he is last pick | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
Get 10 people in lobby. Balance shuffle them. If total DBR of both sides are close, then DBR is close to Valve's MMR. It is going to be worth something of course but I doubt it will be taken very seriously by the Competitive community.There are still just pub stats. They don't compensate for stacks. At the moment, the highest DBR people are going to be the Stackers. Blitz had early access to it and in his stream he said the guy with the highest DBR is the Star only Wisp guy. https://dotabuff.com/players/86736893 | ||
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tauon
Australia1278 Posts
On January 23 2013 13:22 ViZe wrote: Aren't you usually matched with people of similar mmrs anyway? why would it matter if they can see yours if yours is like the same as theirs unless pub people think the menial differences in numbers actually accurately represents skill differentials rather than the current win/loss streak even lol people don't think like that though. worst player in lol usually is forced to play something only because he is last pick In HoN, you were told explicitly where you were ranked relative to each other. This can result in a few unpleasant games where one players refuses to let the weaker player go mid etc... | ||
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AkalineMess
249 Posts
On January 23 2013 13:49 tauon wrote: In HoN, you were told explicitly where you were ranked relative to each other. This can result in a few unpleasant games where one players refuses to let the weaker player go mid etc... Would you let your weakest player in your team go against the best player on the other team (blue/pink)? I dont care in 1600-1700 bracket because of smurfs and player are pretty inconsistent. But in 1900 bracket? Fuck that, brown/oj better pick support and be our ward bitches unless you have a fucking impressive winrate with high KDR and GPM. | ||
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ControlMonkey
Australia3109 Posts
That would be terrible. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
remember its only just a game guiz | ||
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Cool Cat
United States1644 Posts
On January 23 2013 14:52 AkalineMess wrote: Would you let your weakest player in your team go against the best player on the other team (blue/pink)? I dont care in 1600-1700 bracket because of smurfs and player are pretty inconsistent. But in 1900 bracket? Fuck that, brown/oj better pick support and be our ward bitches unless you have a fucking impressive winrate with high KDR and GPM. Also in 1900 bracket, brown/orange is probably 1700. Whereas in 1600-1700 bracket, blue might be 1650 and orange 1600. | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On January 23 2013 14:52 AkalineMess wrote: Would you let your weakest player in your team go against the best player on the other team (blue/pink)? I dont care in 1600-1700 bracket because of smurfs and player are pretty inconsistent. But in 1900 bracket? Fuck that, brown/oj better pick support and be our ward bitches unless you have a fucking impressive winrate with high KDR and GPM. You're not being serious, are you? | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
imagine ur high masters and u get paired with high diamonds | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On January 23 2013 13:32 dtz wrote: One way to check how accurate DBR is going to be compared to Valve MMR would be through balanced shuffle i suppose. Get 10 people in lobby. Balance shuffle them. If total DBR of both sides are close, then DBR is close to Valve's MMR. It is going to be worth something of course but I doubt it will be taken very seriously by the Competitive community.There are still just pub stats. They don't compensate for stacks. At the moment, the highest DBR people are going to be the Stackers. Blitz had early access to it and in his stream he said the guy with the highest DBR is the Star only Wisp guy. https://dotabuff.com/players/86736893 Yep, and it goes across all public match making modes. | ||
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Imbajoe
United States857 Posts
like -ar mm | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
Well hope they show how much wards you get etc I dont mind to see my insanely high Assist on my main i guess >_> This thing is like i said this mmr would be as meaningful as your stats on bnet. Valve at least changed a few times of their algorithms for sure so this mmr from dotabuff wont be accurate and all. I am all for team mmr though, from that team searching mm. also, douchebad tax is nice haha On January 23 2013 11:04 PassiveAce wrote: So to see other peoples "DBR" you have to pay dotabuff? Sounds like a douchebag tax, i approve. | ||
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