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eqez
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden837 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 19:37:46
March 07 2012 19:37 GMT
#3661
CLG CLG CLG CLG CLG

SWEDEN HWAITING!

Miracle and NS best support in the west.

Pajkatt & Dendi best solo players in the west.
not jack
Profile Joined February 2012
123 Posts
March 07 2012 19:39 GMT
#3662
On March 08 2012 04:26 cilinder007 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 04:19 TheYango wrote:
Even within those restrictions, I think Heaven's Halberd might still be more cost-effective than Vanguard.

I thought even sange is more cost effective, thus even sny


SnY is the worst item in the game. I would say that while Halberd does give a lot for 4k, when you get into that realm of expensive items your opportunity cost increases a lot more, showing why it's rarely gotten in comp games. I know heroes that get good use of it are barely picked either, but they still rarely get it.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
March 07 2012 19:50 GMT
#3663
On March 08 2012 04:37 eqez wrote:
CLG CLG CLG CLG CLG

SWEDEN HWAITING!

Miracle and NS best support in the west.

Pajkatt & Dendi best solo players in the west.

i dont want to be rude but, in my world Pajkatt is better than Dendi

pajjkat&Loda and CLG hwaiting!!!!!!
jfourz
Profile Joined August 2009
Ireland421 Posts
March 07 2012 19:56 GMT
#3664
s&y would be great if you could disassemble it
it is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. that is true, it's called life.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 20:05:50
March 07 2012 19:59 GMT
#3665
On March 08 2012 04:39 not jack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 04:26 cilinder007 wrote:
On March 08 2012 04:19 TheYango wrote:
Even within those restrictions, I think Heaven's Halberd might still be more cost-effective than Vanguard.

I thought even sange is more cost effective, thus even sny


SnY is the worst item in the game. I would say that while Halberd does give a lot for 4k, when you get into that realm of expensive items your opportunity cost increases a lot more, showing why it's rarely gotten in comp games. I know heroes that get good use of it are barely picked either, but they still rarely get it.

Oblivion Staff
Ring of Aquila

How long do I have to keep naming items that are more cost-effective than Vanguard?

Also, the only reason Halberd is "rarely gotten" is because not enough games have been on 6.73. It's been bought very frequently in the last week in G-1 League.

On March 08 2012 02:34 rabidch wrote:
About G-1: WE will ride their momentum and beat DK

DK's got 3 and a half weeks to find a way to beat Tauren Chieftain.
Moderator
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 07 2012 19:59 GMT
#3666
On March 08 2012 04:50 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 04:37 eqez wrote:
CLG CLG CLG CLG CLG

SWEDEN HWAITING!

Miracle and NS best support in the west.

Pajkatt & Dendi best solo players in the west.

i dont want to be rude but, in my world Pajkatt is better than Dendi

pajjkat&Loda and CLG hwaiting!!!!!!


Mirakel and Akke are both amazing players. Honestly the two together combined with smulgilig is just insane. I really rate that smulgilig guy as someone that should be in one of these super high level teams. Those clutch shackles.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 20:28:30
March 07 2012 20:25 GMT
#3667
On March 08 2012 04:59 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 04:39 not jack wrote:
On March 08 2012 04:26 cilinder007 wrote:
On March 08 2012 04:19 TheYango wrote:
Even within those restrictions, I think Heaven's Halberd might still be more cost-effective than Vanguard.

I thought even sange is more cost effective, thus even sny


SnY is the worst item in the game. I would say that while Halberd does give a lot for 4k, when you get into that realm of expensive items your opportunity cost increases a lot more, showing why it's rarely gotten in comp games. I know heroes that get good use of it are barely picked either, but they still rarely get it.

Oblivion Staff
Ring of Aquila

How long do I have to keep naming items that are more cost-effective than Vanguard?

Also, the only reason Halberd is "rarely gotten" is because not enough games have been on 6.73. It's been bought very frequently in the last week in G-1 League.

Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 02:34 rabidch wrote:
About G-1: WE will ride their momentum and beat DK

DK's got 3 and a half weeks to find a way to beat Tauren Chieftain.

I have no real idea about competitive dota 1, but tc always was one of my favorite heroes to play. Is he really competitive or just viable as a surprise pick? Also, could you link the vod?
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 20:46:06
March 07 2012 20:45 GMT
#3668
[image loading]

anyone seen this before?
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 07 2012 20:56 GMT
#3669
On March 08 2012 05:45 Whole wrote:
[image loading]

anyone seen this before?

Tidehunter looking fabulous~
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 07 2012 20:59 GMT
#3670
On March 08 2012 05:25 Mafe wrote:
I have no real idea about competitive dota 1, but tc always was one of my favorite heroes to play. Is he really competitive or just viable as a surprise pick? Also, could you link the vod?

WE vs Panda


WE vs LGD doesn't have a youtube link yet.
Moderator
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
March 07 2012 21:00 GMT
#3671
On March 07 2012 08:16 rabidch wrote:
whoa.
Tauren Chieftain in a non gimmicky strat?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFlZj3MKfKM

i'd go with surprise pick
but since veil is really good now mass-aoe strat with heroes like warlock and aa seems to be getting popular
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
March 07 2012 21:02 GMT
#3672
Thanks to both of you.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 21:12:46
March 07 2012 21:12 GMT
#3673
On March 08 2012 04:50 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 04:37 eqez wrote:
CLG CLG CLG CLG CLG

SWEDEN HWAITING!

Miracle and NS best support in the west.

Pajkatt & Dendi best solo players in the west.

i dont want to be rude but, in my world Pajkatt is better than Dendi

pajjkat&Loda and CLG hwaiting!!!!!!



must be weird living in a world with 1 person.


http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
not jack
Profile Joined February 2012
123 Posts
March 07 2012 21:14 GMT
#3674
On March 08 2012 04:59 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 04:39 not jack wrote:
On March 08 2012 04:26 cilinder007 wrote:
On March 08 2012 04:19 TheYango wrote:
Even within those restrictions, I think Heaven's Halberd might still be more cost-effective than Vanguard.

I thought even sange is more cost effective, thus even sny


SnY is the worst item in the game. I would say that while Halberd does give a lot for 4k, when you get into that realm of expensive items your opportunity cost increases a lot more, showing why it's rarely gotten in comp games. I know heroes that get good use of it are barely picked either, but they still rarely get it.

Oblivion Staff
Ring of Aquila

How long do I have to keep naming items that are more cost-effective than Vanguard?

Also, the only reason Halberd is "rarely gotten" is because not enough games have been on 6.73. It's been bought very frequently in the last week in G-1 League.

Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 02:34 rabidch wrote:
About G-1: WE will ride their momentum and beat DK

DK's got 3 and a half weeks to find a way to beat Tauren Chieftain.


If you think Ring of Aquila is comparable there's no getting through to you.
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
March 07 2012 21:22 GMT
#3675
On March 08 2012 06:14 not jack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 04:59 TheYango wrote:
On March 08 2012 04:39 not jack wrote:
On March 08 2012 04:26 cilinder007 wrote:
On March 08 2012 04:19 TheYango wrote:
Even within those restrictions, I think Heaven's Halberd might still be more cost-effective than Vanguard.

I thought even sange is more cost effective, thus even sny


SnY is the worst item in the game. I would say that while Halberd does give a lot for 4k, when you get into that realm of expensive items your opportunity cost increases a lot more, showing why it's rarely gotten in comp games. I know heroes that get good use of it are barely picked either, but they still rarely get it.

Oblivion Staff
Ring of Aquila

How long do I have to keep naming items that are more cost-effective than Vanguard?

Also, the only reason Halberd is "rarely gotten" is because not enough games have been on 6.73. It's been bought very frequently in the last week in G-1 League.

On March 08 2012 02:34 rabidch wrote:
About G-1: WE will ride their momentum and beat DK

DK's got 3 and a half weeks to find a way to beat Tauren Chieftain.


If you think Ring of Aquila is comparable there's no getting through to you.


??? Ring of Aquila is stupidly cost effective, and only takes one item slot for such a cheap and beefy item.
Jieun <3
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
March 07 2012 21:38 GMT
#3676
I'm sure we could set some parameters (stats, slots, other stuff oops would be hard to assign for actives) and mathematically figure out which items are cost-effective. But Ring of Aquila is indeed quite cost-effective.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
March 07 2012 21:52 GMT
#3677
How the hell can one item be more cost-effective when they all have different purposes?
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
March 07 2012 21:55 GMT
#3678
Actually I remember in the relic game 09 on SF picks up a Vanguard explicitly saying "I need something which yields the highest performance-to-cost ratio", but that was a while back.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
March 07 2012 22:05 GMT
#3679
On March 08 2012 06:52 Yoshi- wrote:
How the hell can one item be more cost-effective when they all have different purposes?


Cause people here are becoming the the armchair players at PD.com

Hey you know what's cost effective? The chicken. You know what's more cost effective? The flying chicken.

Quit bringing up cost-effectiveness, you aren't running a business. It's really not that relevant. Buriza is more cost effective than either Deso or MKB but you rarely see Buriza compared to other two in most iterations of DotA (read: all fucking versions).
Get it by your hands...
not jack
Profile Joined February 2012
123 Posts
March 07 2012 22:05 GMT
#3680
On March 08 2012 06:22 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 06:14 not jack wrote:
On March 08 2012 04:59 TheYango wrote:
On March 08 2012 04:39 not jack wrote:
On March 08 2012 04:26 cilinder007 wrote:
On March 08 2012 04:19 TheYango wrote:
Even within those restrictions, I think Heaven's Halberd might still be more cost-effective than Vanguard.

I thought even sange is more cost effective, thus even sny


SnY is the worst item in the game. I would say that while Halberd does give a lot for 4k, when you get into that realm of expensive items your opportunity cost increases a lot more, showing why it's rarely gotten in comp games. I know heroes that get good use of it are barely picked either, but they still rarely get it.

Oblivion Staff
Ring of Aquila

How long do I have to keep naming items that are more cost-effective than Vanguard?

Also, the only reason Halberd is "rarely gotten" is because not enough games have been on 6.73. It's been bought very frequently in the last week in G-1 League.

On March 08 2012 02:34 rabidch wrote:
About G-1: WE will ride their momentum and beat DK

DK's got 3 and a half weeks to find a way to beat Tauren Chieftain.


If you think Ring of Aquila is comparable there's no getting through to you.


??? Ring of Aquila is stupidly cost effective, and only takes one item slot for such a cheap and beefy item.


In most situations it's smarter to just keep the RoB. The majority of it's cost-effectiveness comes from that.
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