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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
January 07 2013 01:53 GMT
#36161
Not all heroes have spammable spells. Especially when combined with last word on one target, it is a pretty damn good nuke.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 01:59:26
January 07 2013 01:54 GMT
#36162
260 hp 130 mana damage in very reasonable aoe? not bad at all imo.
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
January 07 2013 02:02 GMT
#36163
I'm not gonna argue with you guys, if you think curse of the silent is a good teamfight spell, I'm gonna leave you at that.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 02:07:15
January 07 2013 02:03 GMT
#36164
On January 07 2013 10:54 PassiveAce wrote:
260 hp 130 mana damage in very reasonable aoe? not bad at all imo.

That's the absolute minimum assuming everyone casts the moment they come out of Global Silence. It's not at all unrealistic to see it do the full 390 damage + 195 mana drain on at least a couple targets.

As Firebolt said, it also combos with Last Word.
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SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
January 07 2013 02:53 GMT
#36165
Any tournaments to look forward to in January / February besides g-league?
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 07 2013 02:55 GMT
#36166
Starladder will start up once again roughly around 25-29th of Januari.
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SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
January 07 2013 03:14 GMT
#36167
Thanks. Any caught who won the Collegiate Dota league thing?
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 07 2013 03:40 GMT
#36168
On January 07 2013 11:02 cecek wrote:
I'm not gonna argue with you guys, if you think curse of the silent is a good teamfight spell, I'm gonna leave you at that.

? At least put up a decent example of when it could be bad or good, you never go through any effort of doing so as it has been shown in your previous posts regarding similar discussions.

Curse of the Silent can be used to punish the other team for poking with spells and having nothing to follow up with after or force them to use high cost spells that would reduce their ability to actually fight when forced to. I wouldn't say it's a good teamfight spell but it can be very useful situational and depending on how your team positions before and/or during an engagement.
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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 03:53:49
January 07 2013 03:51 GMT
#36169
Curse of the silent is what makes Silencer imba in laning stages. It's an absolute killer against most heroes. I prefer him in any of the side lanes so that you grab 2+ heroes with the INSANE aoe radius with that spell.
Nub4ever
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1981 Posts
January 07 2013 04:01 GMT
#36170
Not really, it isn't really a good spell and was considered pretty bad pre rework of Last Word. However it is pretty useful now given that he has both last word and curse of the silent. Last word ensures a silence and that guarantee's some CotS ticks which is pretty devastating.

As for a teamfight spell, yeah it's mediocre at best. In the midst of fights they tend to just be removed instantly or near instantly through regular needed casts. Though it can be used to get in some dmg here and there on certain heroes or retreating enemies.
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Cocacooh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1510 Posts
January 07 2013 04:16 GMT
#36171
nothing is more demoralizing then getting crushed by a refresher silencer
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
January 07 2013 04:22 GMT
#36172
BKB says fuck you to that
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 07 2013 04:24 GMT
#36173
On January 07 2013 13:22 Firebolt145 wrote:
BKB says fuck you to that

He Global Silences you twice. BKB only removes one of them.

I guess some combination of BKB, Manta, and Diffusal would do it.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
January 07 2013 04:40 GMT
#36174
Oh, does silence go through bkb if you've popped bkb already? Did not know that.
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 07 2013 04:42 GMT
#36175
On January 07 2013 13:40 Firebolt145 wrote:
Oh, does silence go through bkb if you've popped bkb already? Did not know that.

Yes. Treant's Overgrowth works the same way. =x
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
January 07 2013 04:45 GMT
#36176
Yeah was aware of Treant's ult, just didn't know about GS. TIL ~
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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
January 07 2013 05:47 GMT
#36177
Lol just won a game where it was 22-46 hero score. I was on the 22 kill score team.

TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
January 07 2013 05:55 GMT
#36178
On January 07 2013 14:47 trinxified wrote:
Lol just won a game where it was 22-46 hero score. I was on the 22 kill score team.


lol, that is what happens when you go around 5 man ganking, instead of farming.
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 07:10:43
January 07 2013 07:10 GMT
#36179
On January 07 2013 10:51 cecek wrote:
"[curse of the silent] is an extremely good nuke in teamfights."
TheYango 2013

260 damage over 4 seconds for a level 4 spell when used together with a 140s cooldown ulitmate. So great! I'm sorry, but I have a different definition of extremely good nukes.


You missed the core idea behind curse, that sucking mana ability. During laning curse can be an autowin ability for the lane vs many heroes and during teamfight the ability can render 1/2 oppo heroes to be useless with the right combo, especially during early/mid game where some heroes have very tight mana pool (notably those underleveled supports).

Maybe i wouldnt call it a 'nuke' but with the new Last word silencer can lock down at least one hero permanently in a team fight with the right combo at the right timing.


For whatever reason silencer is mostly seen as a support hero in EU/US -_- He hits so damn hard if he was given any farm and not to say if he could steal some int in early game then the game is pretty much gg before 10mins. But yeah without a team keeping in mind that they need to help out a silencer from time to time he wouldnt work that well, which is the common case in pubs (not so much in chinese ladder from what i have seen though xD).
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
January 07 2013 09:17 GMT
#36180
Isn't Silencer supposed to be superior against tri lanes ?
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